It depends on at what level they are. All top guys are on PEDs. The Hadza are active for about 2 hours per day and their T is half that of a sedentary American male (250-300 vs 500-600). UFC fighters easy train 4-6 hours a day which would put them smack in the middle of the hypogonadal range. Most athletes regardless of their sport are hypogonadal or close to it depending on their training and for how long they've been doing it. No one is going to perform at a very high level woth hypogonadal levels. That's one of the reason why they go on TRT in the first place.
Also, many BB are open against steroids, e.g. Mike O'hearn, yet is clearly on roids. There are many other examples.
Most sports are "heavily tested", yet those top guys are all using things. All the science so to speak lol.
I haven't tried, so saying I can't is a poor assumption.
Hey mate, thats interesting, why do the Hadzas have such low T levels is that dietary factors at play? i think the T number may not mean much I heard it depends on how sensitive your receptors or system is to it as well? for instance some people with 900 feel bad but others with 550 feel good and look better etc. theres apparently studies on semen retention increasing androgen receptor density or something despite long term semen retention causing a slight decrease in T levels? some claim thats why you get the benefits from semen retention and why athletes practice it despite officially, longer term semen retention causes a decline in the numerical t values.
also with mike O heard i have seen him and I cant say, some of his pictures where he looks extra big look photoshopped and edited. also I wonder if he has stayed in good health from his diet, he looks abnormally good for his age and i think sometimes eats dozens of eggs a day etc.
Another im curious of is Jeff seid, if you look at his pics they look very great yet his youtube videos, uploaded the same time period, he looks much more normal and seems natty. given the time period seids been training i think that is a good physique to go for as a natty, seems doable with 10+ years consistent training.
I also think it depends on the sport, like id say 30 to 50% of nba players could be using PEDS whereas maybe 40-70% of nfl players, professional bodybuilders like 99%, wrestlers like 90%, boxers/mma fighters maybe 60% or more.
before getting into Peats stuff and just personally experiencing the impact just small changes in diet and lifestyle can have, I used to be really into bbing and fitness. in that world everyone thinks peoples results are just down to diet genetics and gear. "diet" just means something like macro counting, theres very few bbing/fitness people who know about pufa, who know about some carbs being better than others, vaccines, etc and all these things but the number is increasing.
in the bbing and even athletics world there is far too much emphasis on genetics and gear usage. but the reason one guy looks better, has more muscle, performs better than another could simply be due to the other guy training harder, having a better lifestyle, diet, avoiding toxic ingredients like pufa, vaccines, xrays, multivitamins etc. the 'genetics' of one guy is far less responsible for that guy beating another guy in a bbing comp or sport, compared to whether they are eating carrageenan and pufa, taking vaccines, toxic vitamin/mineral supplements, etc.
also havent you tried the 11 keto dht or if not, what is your reason for not using or trying dht/testosterone but using dhea and pregnenolone ?