energyandstruct
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So all the homeless people just lost their directions to the government office?Of course civilization is ableist but nature is even more ableist. If you're handicapped in nature you're an easy prey. Just look at how wild animals treat their sick, they just leave them behind, they just leave them to die.
At least in a western democracy you will get a poverty income from the government to pay for rent and food so that you can survive, in nature you would be left to fend for yourself unless there was someone who offered themselves to be depended upon.
Its more merciful than industrial civ. I don't jnow if you totally missed my point but yes, in nature animals who are sick ans weak often die. But they die more swiftly than the sick and weak in our society who are kept alive on ffeeding tubes etc. I guess it comes down to subjectivr ideas about quality of life.Nature is anything but merciful, lol
So all the homeless people just lost their directions to the government office?
Nonsense, your fantasies about nature are not based on reality. Maybe if you lived in the tropics with fruit just falling of the trees, but anywhere else, no. Being fed through a tube is a choice, and when it isn't it's an action of mercy, unless you think that letting helpless people starve for weeks until they die is merciful. But you probably do think that's merciful if you think nature is merciful.Its more merciful than industrial civ. I don't jnow if you totally missed my point but yes, in nature animals who are sick ans weak often die. But they die more swiftly than the sick and weak in our society who are kept alive on ffeeding tubes etc. I guess it comes down to subjectivr ideas about quality of life.
Plus the whole nature red in tooth and claw thing is this hobbesian philosophy that overdramatizes one aspect of nature. Hunter gatherers lived in accordance with ecological law but they were not anywhere close to the bottom of thr food chain. They have been called the original affluent society
Humans in Hunter gatherer societies worked less hours than people in modern day civilization. They also were nowhere near yhe bottom of the food chain. Occasional famines still happened but far from the horror story people tell themselves about primitive life. If you had a cjronic condition that meant you couldn't take care of yourself most likely you'd starve, instead of being kept alive for years suffering. I consider starvation merciful compares to years of chronic pain. You're throwing a lot of rude ad hominems around instead of debating the core premises here. Read Ishmael by Daniel quinnNonsense, your fantasies about nature are not based on reality. Maybe if you lived in the tropics with fruit just falling of the trees, but anywhere else, no. Being fed through a tube is a choice, and when it isn't it's an action of mercy, unless you think that letting helpless people starve for weeks until they die is merciful. But you probably do think that's merciful if you think nature is merciful.