Steven Bussinger
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As far as nutrients go, its a blanket argument. Populations across the world have eaten nutrient poor diets for extended periods of time, for example as has been seen with pellagra in rice eating countries, among others. Obesity was not a major issue in these situation and many of the other situations. Obesity is clearly a modern western disease, that spreads to non-western countries everytime they adopt portions of the western diet. Besides to claim "nutrients" doesnt really answer much. What nutrients? There are numerous nutrients and for the majority of them obesity isn't neccesarily a side effect of thier deficiency.
I largely agree with what you say. The "calories is a crude measure" is something I often bring up in these kinds of discussions. I believe the concept of a calorie was created as a way to standardize and economize food energy. It was done at the very beginning of modern nutritional science in the 1800's, mostly as a way to study the economics of food.
It's important to note that Asians accumulate visceral fat at much lower BMIs than whites. The point being that you cannot simply map the Asian situation onto the Western situation. The "non-obese rice-eaters" can still have metabolic problems (most likely from inadequate B vitamins in the liver). Diabetes used to be a "wasting disease". Now diabetes presents differently and it is probably because, as you said, PUFA is the culprit now.