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I just keep on hand doxy (and mino and tetra-cycline and ampicillan). Aspirin powder (aniprin). Cascara capsules, pau d'arco tea, quinine tincture, oxidal and vitamin D and charcoal. There has been no need to go to a doctor or vet for years. I don't think about it at all. I definitely had zero concern of covid with that little stockpile.UG:
I felt viral for over a week and began self medicating. I sent him a list of what I had on hand and some things I was taking and others were stand by. I did not want to go get tested (eventually did and was negative for COVID)
His reply:
"The inosine and isoprinosine could be creating symptoms- isoprinosine increases inflammatory cytokines. Doses of zinc shouldn't be over 10mg/day. Doxycycline is anti-inflammatory so it could help. Azithromycin also anti-inflammatory- has been proven effective in Covid."
Regarding Ivermectin he said the risks could be too much for the benefit.
He specifically stated both inosine and isoprinosine could be problematic....and only noted isoprinosine increases cytokines. I ended up dropping both and had bought a truckload for me and my family. I live outside the US and things run out quickly here.
I wrote him back and told him how surprised I was considering all the hoopla here regarding these two medicines and to that he did not respond.
I know. Bummer.
Ah. Cool thx. I have that too. That's part of a regular thing.I have doxycycline but I read it destroys mitochondria. A lot of things with anti-epileptic properties seem to have the side effect of destroying mitochondria. Except for the miracle that is progesterone.
I just keep on hand doxy (and mino and tetra-cycline and ampicillan). Aspirin powder (aniprin). Cascara capsules, pau d'arco tea, quinine tincture, oxidal and vitamin D and charcoal. There has been no need to go to a doctor or vet for years. I don't think about it at all. I definitely had zero concern of covid with that little stockpile.
We eat shellfish (oysters, clams, scallops and shrimp) and leg of lamb, cheese, tatoes, homemade soup, local honey and oranges. And junkfood.
I still have dumb sleep schedules and eat low quality things (pancakes, grilled cheese sandwiches, nachos, pizza and wine).
But I never think about infectious disease. I don't think I'll catch something going around. I think if I am or get/succomb to a disease state, it is entirely from my own slothfull lack of discipline or hyper-focus as to what is hurting our world and interactions.
That's weird, looks like there is some conflicting info about this;UG:
I felt viral for over a week and began self medicating. I sent him a list of what I had on hand and some things I was taking and others were stand by. I did not want to go get tested (eventually did and was negative for COVID)
His reply:
"The inosine and isoprinosine could be creating symptoms- isoprinosine increases inflammatory cytokines. Doses of zinc shouldn't be over 10mg/day. Doxycycline is anti-inflammatory so it could help. Azithromycin also anti-inflammatory- has been proven effective in Covid."
Regarding Ivermectin he said the risks could be too much for the benefit.
He specifically stated both inosine and isoprinosine could be problematic....and only noted isoprinosine increases cytokines. I ended up dropping both and had bought a truckload for me and my family. I live outside the US and things run out quickly here.
I wrote him back and told him how surprised I was considering all the hoopla here regarding these two medicines and to that he did not respond.
I know. Bummer.
I agree it is weird. Maybe someone else could have him clarify but I went back to his email and typed word for word his answer.That's weird, looks like there is some conflicting info about this;
Inosine Pranobex: A Key Player in the Game Against a Wide Range of Viral Infections and Non-Infectious Diseases
Inosine Pranobex: A Key Player in the Game Against a Wide Range of Viral Infections and Non-Infectious Diseases
Inosine pranobex (IP), commonly known as inosine acedoben dimepranol, isoprinosine and methisoprinol, has been proven to positively impact the host’s immune system, by enhancing T-cell lymphocyte proliferation and activity of natural killer cells, increasing levels of pro-inflammatory cytokines, and thereby restoring deficient responses in immunosuppressed patients. At the same time, it has been shown that it can affect viral RNA levels and hence inhibit growth of several viruses.
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Inosine inhibits inflammatory cytokine production by a posttranscriptional mechanism and protects against endotoxin-induced shock
Inosine inhibits inflammatory cytokine production by a posttranscriptional mechanism and protects against endotoxin-induced shock - PubMed
Extracellular purines, including adenosine and ATP, are potent endogenous immunomodulatory molecules. Inosine, a degradation product of these purines, can reach high concentrations in the extracellular space under conditions associated with cellular metabolic stress such as inflammation or ischemia. In the present study, we investigated whether extracellular inosine can affect inflammatory/immune processes. In immunostimulated macrophages and spleen cells, inosine potently inhibited the production of the proinflammatory cytokines TNF-alpha, IL-1, IL-12, macrophage-inflammatory protein-1alpha, and IFN-gamma, but failed to alter the production of the anti-inflammatory cytokine IL-10. The effect of inosine did not require cellular uptake by nucleoside transporters and was partially reversed by blockade of adenosine A1 and A2 receptors. Inosine inhibited cytokine production by a posttranscriptional mechanism. The activity of inosine was independent of activation of the p38 and p42/p44 mitogen-activated protein kinases, the phosphorylation of the c-Jun terminal kinase, the degradation of inhibitory factor kappaB, and elevation of intracellular cAMP. Inosine suppressed proinflammatory cytokine production and mortality in a mouse endotoxemic model. Taken together, inosine has multiple anti-inflammatory effects. These findings, coupled with the fact that inosine has very low toxicity, suggest that this agent may be useful in the treatment of inflammatory/ischemic diseases.
Inosine, niacinamide, aspirin, caffeine, thyroid, methylene blue, tocopherols, progesterone, DHEA, etc are all known radiaprotectors. Ideally, they should be taken both before and after radiation exposure. When I got dental X-rays I took 1g inosine and 1g niacinamide 1h before and then the same dose 1h after the X-rays. But even doing only before/after would be beneficial and if I had to choose between the two I would take those before exposure.
That's because they don't understand ions.thats interesting, anyone know of any other 'radioprotective' substances? would these substances be beneficial to use in a small dosage daily, just to protect from all the general radiation going around society like from cell towers, 5g, personal smartphones/computers/television. even with cts/xrays being avoided i think theres still lots of radiation harming us. of those on the list the only one id really feel comfortable using regularly is the tocopherols maybe once a week large dosage?
also just curious were you able to skip the dental X rays or does your dentist require them
a while back I randomly came across some site where people were being critical of Peat and saying some omega 3 is necessary for protection from radiation or something else toxic in todays modern environment. cant remember the logic/reasoning used but they were claiming theres some sort of environmental factor messing with us which necessitates omega 3
Where in the world do pharmacies sell inosine?Thanks :) Glad he is doing ok :)
Btw just bought some inosine from nearby pharmacy - Going to test the damn thing for the next month :)
I will post some updates If I do remember to do so. :)
I have a friend who works in a pharmacy and he gave it to me. It's sold here in Serbia as an antibiotic - ISOPRINOSINEWhere in the world do pharmacies sell inosine?
I use this product, it's "for animals" but it's basically just pure inosine. Only downside is you'll need scales to weigh your dose properly.Where in the world do pharmacies sell inosine?
i got mine at Amazon.Where in the world do pharmacies sell inosine?
damn, where did ray say this? whats the issue with inosine and how does it cause that? isnt there an idealabs product that uses that. also i think generally, in the bodybuilding/supplement industry theres some articles talking about creatine supplementation depleting inosine. i think both are present in small amounts in animal meats. but some of the inosine supplements are marketed as being necessary for creatine usersI have a friend who works in a pharmacy and he gave it to me. It's sold here in Serbia as an antibiotic - ISOPRINOSINE
I've stopped using it after day one since I've seen that Ray stated it can lead to a cytokine storm and preferred azithromycin / doxy.
I use this, I believe a quarter teaspoon is about 500 mg.I use this product, it's "for animals" but it's basically just pure inosine. Only downside is you'll need scales to weigh your dose properly.
Awesome, I got a milligram scale so I just weigh it. Good to know though if my scale quits working.I use this, I believe a quarter teaspoon is about 500 mg.
Yeah, once you weigh it the first time and calibrate it to a specific measurement, you should not have to measure it again (especially from that particular batch, you could always re-weigh the next bottle of powder to confirm it is the same).Awesome, I got a milligram scale so I just weigh it. Good to know though if my scale quits working.
That's fascinating. Here in western Europe, stuff like that is not allowed to be sold in pharmacies.I have a friend who works in a pharmacy and he gave it to me. It's sold here in Serbia as an antibiotic - ISOPRINOSINE
I've stopped using it after day one since I've seen that Ray stated it can lead to a cytokine storm and preferred azithromycin / doxy.
is that why it causes weight gain? how do you recover mitochondria after doxycycline destroys them, can they come backI have doxycycline but I read it destroys mitochondria. A lot of things with anti-epileptic properties seem to have the side effect of destroying mitochondria. Except for the miracle that is progesterone.