Injaculation (Retrograde Ejeculation) As A NoFap Substitute

[Jing]

“By the way, if you have been misled to over-masturbation, over-ejaculation (high-frequency ejaculation), or excessive sex, our products can help you get recovery from sexual exhaustion symptoms unless your testicular function was fully castrated by excessive sex.“

Why wouldn't he sell products that can help?

 

[Steene]

So, if you are resting with an attractive female and get a boner and want to have sex, you would have sex without orgasm?
Or not having sex?

"Just" cut down orgasming. You don't have to make yourself asexual.

 

[vulture]

Why wouldn't he sell products that can help?

Have you used them? Have anyone you know improved significantly after using them or following his advice?

 

[vulture]

"Just" cut down orgasming. You don't have to make yourself asexual.

I have varicoceles, never tried sex without ejaculation, but masturbation without ejaculation makes my varicose veins worse and get some pain in my balls, like blueballs.

 

[Amazoniac]

How would you do that?
What about progesterone?

Just a slight excess from supplements will do it.

 

[Waynish]

Ironic username Jing? Yes, ejaculating too much burns up the Jing! I don't recommend the injection technique. It isn't a true tantric or Taoist technique, which they seem to be claiming. The correct technique is abstaining more and expelling less. The sexual energy is converted using other techniques. There's no cheat code so you can get all the same pleasure without the downside. I recommend sex with women :) Don't masturbate.

 

[Jing]

Have you used them? Have anyone you know improved significantly after using them or following his advice?

I did use some of his products a few years ago and they did help .. especially with lasting longer and pain in my penis I have chronic prostatitis .. but at the time I was smoking and diet was bad and I didn't limit ejaculation .. so I know they help but need to also change lifestyle ... Also if you can find his anal breathing exercise if you can do that it does help with lasting longer ..

 

[Logan-]

From:Cupid's Poisoned Arrow


***“On the 7th day of abstinence, however, a clear peak of serum testosterone appeared, reaching 145.7% of the baseline ( P < 0.01). No regular fluctuation was observed following continuous abstinence after the peak.”
A research on the relationship between ejaculation and serum testosterone level in men. - PubMed - NCBI


***Even though ejaculations seemingly have no significant effects on serum testosterone levels, they can (at least according to rodent studies) alter the body’s ability to utilize testosterone. It has been seen that after multiple ejaculations a sharp decline in androgen receptors takes place inside the hypothalamus, and not only that, but a sharp increase in estrogen receptors follows as well. One rodent study also found out that 1 or 2 ejaculations in short span of time increased androgen receptor activity in the body, while 4 or more ejaculations caused a significant drop in the activity of AR, suggesting that ejaculating yourself to “sexual exhaustion” might lower your body’s ability to utilize androgens.
https://www.anabolicmen.com/ejaculation-testosterone/


***Studies have shown if you masturbate more than twice in a day, there becomes a decline in androgen receptors in your brain. These are what allows your body to use testosterone by binding to it – with less of these, the less your body can use and lower your active testosterone levels will be. [7]

And to make matters worse it’s been seen to make estrogen levels increase. [8] While your androgen receptors are on the decline, estrogen receptors are on the rise, meaning they’re binding to more of the female hormone in your body and increasing your risk of lower testosterone.

[7] Romano-Torres M, Phillips-Farfan BV, Chavira R, Rodriguez-Manzo G, Fernandez-Guasti A. Relationship between sexual satiety and brain androgen receptors. Neuroendocrinology. 2007;85:16–26.
[8] Phillips-Farfan BV, Lemus AE, Fernandez-Guasti A. Increased estrogen receptor alpha immunoreactivity in the forebrain of sexually satiated rats. Horm. Behav. 2007;51:328–334.
Does Masturbating Lower Testosterone? - TestoFuel Blog


***Today, there is also a growing number of evidence that links testosterone levels with the number of times you ejaculate in a single day. This is evidenced by changes observed in your number of androgen receptors or receptors that allow you to utilize testosterone throughout your body. Hence with lower androgen receptors, you will essentially also have lower active testosterone levels.

According to a study conducted by the Universidad Veracruzana in Mexico, one to two ejaculations for a short period of time can increase androgen receptor activity. However, when ejaculations are done four or more times during a short period of time, there is a significant reduction in androgen activity. Specifically, it was observed that androgen receptors returned to its baseline level after the fourth ejaculation. (study)

This finding seems to be supported by another study done by the Centro de Investigación y Estudios Avanzados and Instituto Nacional de Ciencias Médicas y Nutrición 'Salvador Zubirán' in Mexico. Their experiment revealed that multiple ejaculations resulted in a significant decline in androgen receptors. (study)

At the same time, a study conducted by CINVESTAV in Mexico found that while androgen receptors are decreased after multiple ejaculations, there is also a significant increase in estrogen receptors. (study)
Is There a Link Between Masturbation and Testosterone?


***Dopamine is a major factor. Drugs and activities whichc change the regulation of dopamine will alter libido. Dopamine agonists (pramiprexole), dopamine reuptake inhibitors (wellbutrin, cocaine, methamphetamine) will all cause increases in reward seeking behavior including but not limited to libido. Dopamine blockers such as antipsychotics are often considered libido killers.

Dopamine is counter-regulated by prolactin which is released after male ejaculation, so increases in prolactin cause dopamine and libido to drastically fall off. The other name for dopamine is prolactin inhibiting hormone, or PIH. Males who are able to ejaculate multiple times in a row with no refractory period tend to have a reduced production of or response to prolactin.

Testosterone is a huge factor in libido for men and women. Testosterone acts as a neuromodulator and potentiates dopamineric activation of the sex drive.
ELI5: What causes libido, and why does it vary so much between people? : explainlikeimfive


***It not only helps regulate testosterone production in men, but also helps to regulate immune functions, salt and water balances, metabolic functions, endocrine system, brain and behavior, and growth and development. Prolactin is what tells your body that it’s satisfied after sex, and lets the arousal mechanisms (aka dopamine) know they can settle down for a bit.
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Because higher levels of prolactin are found in fathers of young children and in expectant fathers, as compared to un-mated males, according to a large-scale study in the Phillipines, behavioral endocrinologists have theorized that a modest rise in prolactin helps prepare men for the task of fatherhood. It quiets the sex drive, they figure, and along with oxytocin—with its weird reputation for being both the “cuddle” hormone as well as a byproduct of stress—helps dads of young children bond to and empathize with their offspring.
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Elevated levels prolactin in the blood signals the gonads to make less testosterone (hypogonadism).
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Sometimes levels also go up during periods of stress, even briefly.
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It can be helpful to look at prolactin levels next to testosterone levels, because ongoing high prolactin secretion will signal the body to lower testosterone production.
Prolactinemia | Causes of Male Infertility


this is what 'YOU' can achieve after 'X' amount of days!

• 5 minutes - heart rate returns to normal.
  
  
• 2-3 days - guilt and shame seems to decrease.
  
  
• 7 days - brain fog lifts.
  
  
• 14 days - prolactin starts to drop.
  
  
• 14 - 21 days - due to drop in prolactin, dopamine sensitivity increases, you can start to enjoy the little things in life again, no longer emotionally numb, energy levels start to increase big time, confidence also increases.
  
  
• 30 days - cravings and flashbacks noticeably reduce.
  
  
• 30-60 days - PIED symptoms disappear or improve. Erections become rock solid, unless you're PIED symptoms are severe. Confidence keeps rising
  
  
• 42 days - ΔFosB (DeltaFosB) that has accumulated around the nucleus accumbens starts to remove itself. This makes it possible for the neurons in the porn-addicted pathways to now start to slowly break up over time without use.
  
  
• 90 days - considered a full reboot for most people, however people with severe PIED will need longer. Confidence still rising
  
  
• 120 - 150 days - symptoms of severe PIED disappear or improve.

this is what 'YOU' can achieve after 'X' amount of days! : NoFap

This image shows some of the hormonal changes in men before, during, and after orgasm.

The above image was taken from this article: Specificity of the neuroendocrine response to orgasm during sexual arousal in men. (2003)

Source: POIS cure: theory & supplement stack

 

[Nokoni]

I had a retrograde ejaculation once after taking a smooth muscle relaxer. Not pleasant at all, like "Whoa! WTF just happened?!" Very unsatisfying. Once I figured it out the rest of that script went straight in the bin.

 

[Logan-]

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[Highserotonin90]

@Logan-

This would happen excessively if the person, following the orgasm, would not take "measures" to "contrast" this collapse... don't you think?

 

[Logan-]

@Logan-

This would happen excessively if the person, following the orgasm, would not take "measures" to "contrast" this collapse... don't you think?

I don’t understand your question.

 

[Logan-]

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[Logan-]

Is There A Way To Safely Reduce Male Libido?

Is there a way to reduce a man’s libido without affecting his general well-being? I know Ray said that high estrogen causes "insatiable sexual interest"; but let's assume the man in question doesn't have high estrogen, and is generally healthy.

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