Ingredients in hair products a cause for concern?

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How concerned should one be about products applied to hair such as hair wax? Is there significatant absorption to blood from hair?
 
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How concerned should one be about products applied to hair such as hair wax? Is there significatant absorption to blood from hair?

Rat Peat says shampoos and soaps are endocrine disruptors, and worse than flouride. I don't have time to find his exact words, but here is forum member, Charlie, referencing it.
 

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What are good alternatives for washing body and hair with? Is there any products or natural base solutions to eliminate endocrine disruption within the body? I heard fluoride was dangerous due to it being used in a lot of pesticides.
 

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The worst ingredients are phthalates which hide in fragrances, and parabens. Phthalates are serious endocrine disruptors. Get fragrance free whenever possible.
 
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Here is a thread with what others on this forum are doing.....

 
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He's talking about phthalates and parabens, neither of which are used all that regularly in skincare, haircare, cosmetics these days, and when they are their allowed concentrations are strictly controlled in Europe and the UK at least to be way below the concentration that would cause endocrine disruption. Parabens and phthalates should be avoided anyways since they can cause irritation when used too frequently, and generally only cheap cosmetics that use unstable formulas rely on those kinds of preservatives..either that or alcohols

If he's claiming that emollients e.g butylene glycol and saponins e.g sodium laurel sulfate can cause endocrine disruption i have no idea where he's getting that info from since the only data supporting any endocrine disruption is from parabens and phthalates far exceeding the quantities that you would get in cheaper shampoo formulas. Considering that most all commercial saponins and emollients are byproducts of coconut like fatty alcohols as well would make even less sense why he thinks this to be true. Its safe to assume he's lumping all preservatives in with all the cleansing ingredients used in cosmetics
 
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He's talking about phthalates and parabens, neither of which are used all that regularly in skincare, haircare, cosmetics these days, and when they are their allowed concentrations are strictly controlled in Europe and the UK at least to be way below the concentration that would cause endocrine disruption. Parabens and phthalates should be avoided anyways since they can cause irritation when used too frequently, and generally only cheap cosmetics that use unstable formulas rely on those kinds of preservatives..either that or alcohols

If he's claiming that emollients e.g butylene glycol and saponins e.g sodium laurel sulfate can cause endocrine disruption i have no idea where he's getting that info from since the only data supporting any endocrine disruption is from parabens and phthalates far exceeding the quantities that you would get in cheaper shampoo formulas. Considering that most all commercial saponins and emollients are byproducts of coconut like fatty alcohols as well would make even less sense why he thinks this to be true. Its safe to assume he's lumping all preservatives in with all the cleansing ingredients used in cosmetics

I think he thinking about all of them..

"Polyethylene Glycols (PEG)

Also a thickening agent that is often contaminated with byproducts. They can be directly harmful to humans since they are derived from petroleum. There has not been sufficient research done to conclude that PEGs themselves are toxic. However, common by-products in the PEGs, like ethylene oxides and 1,4-dioxane are harmful."
 
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Diethanolamine (DEA) & Triethanolamine (TEA)

"DEA and TEA are also emulsifiers and foam agents that reduce the surface tension between different substances so that ingredients that are water-soluble and oil-soluble can blend together. In 1998, researchers found a link between the topical application of DEA and cancer in animals during lab tests. According to the Food and Drug Administration, however, there are no proven links between the use of DEA and cancer in humans."
 
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"Out of all the shampoo ingredients that are harmful, formaldehyde may be the scariest. Formaldehyde is a known human carcinogen and has been proven to be absorbed through the skin in animal testing. Manufacturers often add it directly as a preservative. But it can also be released over time through a chemical process from other types of preservatives. The formaldehyde-releasers have different names and it will not always be clear what they actually are. But one that is common in shampoos is quaternium-15"
 
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"Products that have “fragrance” on their label contain thousands of hidden chemicals. Some ingredients in fragranced cosmetic products can disrupt the reproductive systems. They can also cause cancer, asthma and make their way into women’s breast milk. Like many ingredients on this list, it is also an irritant to the skin and scalp, which can lead to hair loss."
 
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"Most shampoos and conditioners are dyed with a synthetic color to make them look nice. These colors come from petroleum or coal-tar sources, all of which come with harmful health effects. Many have links to various diseases – even cancer and are already illegal abroad. Synthetic colors will normally go by FD&C or D&C combined with a number."
 

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He's talking about phthalates and parabens, neither of which are used all that regularly in skincare, haircare, cosmetics these days, and when they are their allowed concentrations are strictly controlled in Europe and the UK at least to be way below the concentration that would cause endocrine disruption. Parabens and phthalates should be avoided anyways since they can cause irritation when used too frequently, and generally only cheap cosmetics that use unstable formulas rely on those kinds of preservatives..either that or alcohols

If he's claiming that emollients e.g butylene glycol and saponins e.g sodium laurel sulfate can cause endocrine disruption i have no idea where he's getting that info from since the only data supporting any endocrine disruption is from parabens and phthalates far exceeding the quantities that you would get in cheaper shampoo formulas. Considering that most all commercial saponins and emollients are byproducts of coconut like fatty alcohols as well would make even less sense why he thinks this to be true. Its safe to assume he's lumping all preservatives in with all the cleansing ingredients used in cosmetics
They are not strictly controlled in the US. Phthalates are common wherever the bottle says "long lasting fragrance". It is literally the reason it lasts long. They aren't listed as an ingredient because it's in the fragrance.
 
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"Some shampoos contain retinyl palmitate, which is the ester of retinol. That means it is a retinoid, which is one of the most important vitamins for the skin. However, when in contact with skin, it converts into retinol. This is a known skin irritant and can cause peeling, scaling, redness, and itching. There are warnings about side effects from retinyl palmitate, including cancer, reproductive problems, and organ toxicity."

 

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