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Increased Vit D Supplementation Leads To Muscle Twitching

Discussion in 'mayweatherking' started by mayweatherking, Dec 10, 2016.

  1. mayweatherking

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    Anyone know the connection? im wondering what the co factors are or what vit D depletes or creates more of. Would lack of k2 cause it? I just took some k2 to see what would happen. fwiw, I might have been D deficient for at least a couple of months.
     
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    How much D were you taking? I think magnesium deficiency gave me some problems with D.
     
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    Its hyper calcemia?

    Varied... today I took around 8k so far. other days id do maybe 15 to 20k. the reason is my D level was 27. so I was trying to get it up.

    Your right it.could be mag, but even mag chloride doesn't really do anything for it. but I noticed the twithing may go uo.with sugar, because I ate a part of chocolate bar and I started getting twitching
     
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    That is a fair amount of D, although a lot of people are quick to suggest taking even higher than that.

    Have you tried the mag bicarb water? It's the only mag I've noticed any difference from.
     
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    So should vit A take care of it then if.its hypercalcemia as a test? id say making the oily vitamins work is one of my main problems if not the main problem. I have had bad dandruff for a while and get random symptoms like this when dealing with this stuff. how much A do.you take?

    I havent... I will try it
     
  7. Giraffe

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    You can try it, but I would first try magnesium. It has helped you so often.

    I get my vitamin A from food.
     
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    I dont think its magnesium. when I drink milk sugar and coffee it got worse. I.think it.was.the vit A. I took a lot on my skin and I noticed my nose got less clogged. then I had a libido boost after it. then I went to the restroom and felt my temp go up a lot after urinating. I really think I.have an A problem. the dandruff, hairloss, lack of libido, it all points to A issues. bit I always had issues due to thyroid inhibition. maybe noe that my D is better, it will be better? lets hope so..
     
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    Emailed my boy ray.. he tlld me calcium mag and b.vitamins especially b6.. got some liver and ate a good amount... I felt my muscles relax a lot..'. I think he could be right, hopefully ill be ok
     
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    I never go more than 2-3 k unless its short term or blood check regularly.that is a big dose you mentioned.

    Just hit 40ng ,need blood test for sure.
     
  11. Giraffe

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    Can you also post this in the email advice thread, please? :)
    Ray Peat Email Advice Depository
     
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    Did you have any symptoms when you had that high vitamin D level? Was is 80 ng/ml?
     
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    I hit 111ng one time,and yes it was very bad ,for sure it was hypercalcemia.however I didn't test my calcium level,just stopped vitamin d for a while.

    My point also is that this vitamin has a cumulative increasing effect,in long term you have no idea how it increase your level , unless you test.I talk about 6month - 1 year when I say cumulative dose.

    What level of vitamin d you believe is good?
     
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    Also vitamin A is important to be balanced with vitamin d with good ratio,with that you can inhibit hypercalcemia effect of high dose vitamin d to a good degree.( and I wasn't awar of it at that time when I used lot of vitamin d)
     
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    I would aim for something between 35 and 50 ng/ml. I have not seen enough research yet to be absolutely confident, though. Not sure either that there is one level that is the optimal one for everybody.

    I supplement vitamin D only in Winter, hope it helps to prevent the blues.
     
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    Ideal levels should be around 60-70ng/mL if they come from uvb light and food.

    Supplements I would never go over 2000iu daily even if it weren't enough to reach that levels (then, 30-40 is acceptable). Trying to reach proper levels just with oral d3 its gonna be a mess for sure.
     
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    Base on what you believe 60-70 ng is optimal levels?
     
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    To my knowledge you can't reach that level unless you be a surfer or lifeguard, being no cloths whole day.

    That's not natural to humans I think.


    Here one of forum member posted an interesting study:
    Vitamin D fnd Taurine As Actual Treatment For Many Cancers
     
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    Vit D might enable the immune system to attack pathogens that were resistant to previous immune action. As a result, increased endotoxins might irritate the nerves and cause twitching. A similar thing happened to me with cypro.
     
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