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I'm Scared My Paleo Past Gave Me Colon Cancer, Should I Get A Colonoscopy?

Discussion in 'Diet' started by Gadsie, Mar 14, 2019.

  1. Gadsie

    Gadsie Member

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    From about 2012 to 2015, I ate so much red meat I'm embarrassed to even talk about it. It was in the 400 grams a day range, mostly ground beef and bacon, in combination with a lot of (high fat) dairy and some fruit. I was 14-17 years old. The past few days I've been having some bowel discomfort, though nothing serious, no visible blood. But it did get me thinking about my paleo past and looking at all the red meat (heme-iron) and cancer correlation. Cancer at my age (almost 22) is very rare statistically speaking, but statistically speaking almost nobody ate so much meat.

    Somewhere deep down I know I should get a colonoscopy, but I'm afraid.
     
  2. Dolomite

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    I think it will relieve your fear if you go ahead and get a colonoscopy. Bowel discomfort can come from many things. I doubt the paleo diet for three years would cause cancer. At your age the nutrients were probably put to good use. There is a noninvasive test and I think it is called cologuard that might be a good first step.
     
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    Don't be ridiculous. If you look for excuse to have something shoved up your ass then look into coffee enemas.
     
  4. opson123

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    I also doubt eating just 400g a day gave you cancer. 400g is like two steaks? Many people eat way more and have for decades and if they get colon cancer they'd start suffering fom it in their later years.

    It's likely something else.
     
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    Gadsie

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    Thank you. Do you have any examples of those people? I rarely heard of people eating over a pound of meat for extended periods of time
     
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    Gadsie

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    Thanks. I’ll see how my physical symptoms and fear develop over the next week and decide
     
  7. Dolomite

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    I agree with opson123 that people do eat a lot of meat. A contractor once told us he eats 2 lbs of meat daily. I think that is a lot but if you were hungry you needed it.

    Think about anything you ate recently that was different. Maybe the gut bacteria is causing it. That is usually my problem.
     
  8. opson123

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    A relatively healthy example is someone like Stan Efferding who is a fan of Peat. He basically eats red meat in every meal. You can check his videos on youtube or google 'vertical diet'.
     
  9. Rafael Lao Wai

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    Have you seen this thread?
    Aspirin Can Fully Replace Your Annual Colonoscopy

    You could do a high niacinamide, high aspirin regimen for a few days. That should benefit your colon a lot. The only downside I see is that these substances will make you gain a little weight, but it should be easy to lose it when you stop using them.
     
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    Also, if you think you have too much iron in your body, then donating blood or using iron chelating agents can be solutions for that.
     
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    It does seem like a very dangerous procedure. And also, why would anyone do it? At best, they won't find anything. At worst, they will say you have cancer. If it turns out you don't have anything, then nothing has to be done; if you have cancer, all you need to do is use strategies that people have written on this forum and also lots of advices from Ray Peat. If you follow the doctor's advice, then you will surely end up with at least a handful of side-effects and may have a reincidence of the cancer you underwent chemo to kill. So, if you feel like you may have colon cancer, build a strategy with Ray's ideas in mind and you'll be fine.
     
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    Hi @Gadsie,

    What do you eat these days?

    Your pain is more likely to be related to your current diet than to what you ate several years ago.

    Meat doesn't leave much residue, but beans, lentils, nuts, grains and other seeds can leave a lot of insoluble fibre for bacteria to feed on in your intestines, creating methane gas that can painfully swell your colonic tubes and crevices.
     
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    Gadsie

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    These days my diet consists mainly of skim milk, orange juice, rice, cheese, and I do also eat a decent amount of veggies and some (white) oil-free bread, sort of a compromise with my girlfriend :D.

    I actually did a fecal immunochemical blood test and it came back negative, so there's no blood. I will repeat this every few months just to make sure. For now, I'm not too worried, although I do occasionally have some bowel discomfort.
     
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    Hi @Gadsie,

    Glad you are feeling more positive.

    Next time you get intestinal pain, note what you had just eaten.

    Maybe you ate fast moving vegetables too soon after slow-to-digest cheese or skim milk...

    Maybe you ate a lot of rice and the rice absorbed too much water.

    There may be combinations which cause pain or even individual problem makers!

    You aren't eating a lot of iron now so that should be compensating for your meat binges in the past!

    I'm always discovering new cause and effect pairs! I'm currently trying to see if beer or bread has been causing my excessively itchy skin! If it is the beer, would I get the same effects from gin? etc.

    Lots of tests to do and observations to make!
     
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    Colonoscopy is very invasive and has potentially lethal side effects (from the procedure itself or the general anesthesia they usually put you under) and should not be taken lightly. Most doctors angrily downplay the risks when asked but if you read the warnings on the form you are signing before the procedure it's all explained in there. An abdominal ultrasound or MRI are much safer options if the doctor can be talked into trying them and will usually catch solid tumors big enough to cause problems.
     
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