‘Ignore The CDC’: Johns Hopkins Professor Says Half Of Americans Have ‘Natural Immunity’

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Makary claimed that the U.S. has already achieved the 85%-benchmark, or herd immunity. However, “the most slow, reactionary, political CDC in American history” has been ignoring the fact that nearly half of the unvaccinated people are naturally immune, according to Makary.

“Please, ignore the CDC guidance,” he added. “Live a normal life, unless you are unvaccinated and did not have the infection, in which case you need to be careful.”

“We’ve got to start respecting people who choose not to get the vaccine instead of demonizing them,” Makary asserted.

 
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Necessity of COVID-19 Vaccination in Previously Infected Individuals: A Retrospective Cohort Study​

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Background. The purpose of this study was to evaluate the necessity of COVID-19 vaccination in persons previously infected with SARS-CoV-2.

Methods. Employees of the Cleveland Clinic Health System working in Ohio on Dec 16, 2020, the day COVID-19 vaccination was started, were included. Any subject who tested positive for SARS-CoV-2 at least 42 days earlier was considered previously infected. One was considered vaccinated 14 days after receipt of the second dose of a SARS-CoV-2 mRNA vaccine. The cumulative incidence of SARS-CoV-2 infection over the next five months, among previously infected subjects who received the vaccine, was compared with those of previously infected subjects who remained unvaccinated, previously uninfected subjects who received the vaccine, and previously uninfected subjects who remained unvaccinated.

Results. Among the 52238 included employees, 1359 (53%) of 2579 previously infected subjects remained unvaccinated, compared with 22777 (41%) of 49659 not previously infected. The cumulative incidence of SARS-CoV-2 infection remained almost zero among previously infected unvaccinated subjects, previously infected subjects who were vaccinated, and previously uninfected subjects who were vaccinated, compared with a steady increase in cumulative incidence among previously uninfected subjects who remained unvaccinated. Not one of the 1359 previously infected subjects who remained unvaccinated had a SARS-CoV-2 infection over the duration of the study. In a Cox proportional hazards regression model, after adjusting for the phase of the epidemic, vaccination was associated with a significantly lower risk of SARS-CoV-2 infection among those not previously infected (HR 0.031, 95% CI 0.015 to 0.061) but not among those previously infected (HR 0.313, 95% CI 0 to Infinity).

Conclusions.Individuals who have had SARS-CoV-2 infection are unlikely to benefit from COVID-19 vaccination, and vaccines can be safely prioritized to those who have not been infected before.

 
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“Coronavirus patients who recovered from the virus were far less likely to become infected during the latest wave of the pandemic than people who were vaccinated against COVID, according to numbers presented to the Israeli Health Ministry.

Health Ministry data on the wave of COVID outbreaks which began this May show that Israelis with immunity from natural infection were far less likely to become infected again in comparison to Israelis who only had immunity via vaccination.

More than 7,700 new cases of the virus have been detected during the most recent wave starting in May, but just 72 of the confirmed cases were reported in people who were known to have been infected previously – that is, less than 1% of the new cases.”

 

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Conclusions:
This study demonstrated that natural immunity confers longer lasting and stronger protection against infection, symptomatic disease and hospitalization caused by the Delta variant of SARS-CoV-2, compared to the BNT162b2 two-dose vaccine-induced immunity.

I know now how it feels for our caveman ancestors to invent the practice of clubbing to keep their sanity when fecal thought was invented by their contemporaries.
 
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Abstract​

Background Immune protection following either vaccination or infection with SARS-CoV-2 decreases over time.

Objective
To determine the kinetics of SARS-CoV-2 IgG antibodies following administration of two doses of BNT162b2 vaccine, or SARS-CoV-2 infection in unvaccinated individuals.

Methods
Antibody titers were measured between January 31, 2021, and July 31, 2021 in two mutually exclusive groups: i) vaccinated individuals who received two doses of BNT162b2 vaccine and had no history of previous infection with COVID-19 and ii) SARS-CoV-2 convalescents who had not received the vaccine.

Results
A total of 2,653 individuals fully vaccinated by two doses of vaccine during the study period and 4,361 convalescent patients were included. Higher SARS-CoV-2 IgG antibody titers were observed in vaccinated individuals (median 1581 AU/mL IQR [533.8-5644.6]) after the second vaccination, than in convalescent individuals (median 355.3 AU/mL IQR [141.2-998.7]; p<0.001). In vaccinated subjects, antibody titers decreased by up to 40% each subsequent month while in convalescents they decreased by less than 5% per month. Six months after BNT162b2 vaccination 16.1% subjects had antibody levels below the seropositivity threshold of <50 AU/mL, while only 10.8% of convalescent patients were below <50 AU/mL threshold after 9 months from SARS-CoV-2 infection.

Conclusions
This study demonstrates individuals who received the Pfizer-BioNTech mRNA vaccine have different kinetics of antibody levels compared to patients who had been infected with the SARS-CoV-2 virus, with higher initial levels but a much faster exponential decrease in the first group.

 

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Did people forget that 3 or 4 months after the pandemic started last year that there were multiple studies finding that people tested at random on the street found 1/3 of the population had antibodies already? All those stories have since been wipe off the internet. By now EVERYONE has been exposed.
 

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Did people forget that 3 or 4 months after the pandemic started last year that there were multiple studies finding that people tested at random on the street found 1/3 of the population had antibodies already? All those stories have since been wipe off the internet. By now EVERYONE has been exposed.

Actually, in some countries it was >50% of the tested and it could have been an even higher number but those studies trying to find pre-existing immunity were quickly cancelled/defunded or were refused publication.

At this point, it is probably above 90%, which is corroborated by the data from the UK, even though they ascribe it to the vaccination campaign.

That means, of course, herd immunity but CDC/WHO changed the definition to now only include immunity from vaccination. Even the study below did little/nothing to change the minds of the psychopaths who run public health.
 

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Excellent. It’s not easy for people like that to peel themselves off the culture they work in everyday to tell the truth. But the more people do that the easier it gets for those thinking about opposing the culture.

It’s funny how talk about herd immunity in the media was disappeared after this paper came out adding variability to exposure in the population. This paper April 2020 estimates that functional herd immunity threshold could be lowered from 60 - 80% exposure to 10 - 30%.

Get it while it’s hot. I expect it’ll be retracted.
 
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Natural immunity no longer recognised by the UK government. This is criminal!

"Under the plan,(B) only double-vaccinated people would be certified by the passports. Negative coronavirus tests and proof of natural immunity after recently recovering from the virus would no longer be permitted".

 
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“A Johns Hopkins professor got tired of watching the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, as well as the National Institutes of Health, proceed with their Covid response policies for two years now as if natural immunity doesn’t exist.”
 
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