"If You're On Thyroid And Not Taking Iodine, Your Chances Of Cancer Go Up 30-40%"

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I've been reading about Iodine as a supplement and traditional healing medicine from decades ago, and I've read through a few threads here on the forum that have had vigorous debate between what Peat recommends ('no need for too much iodine') vs. what others have been saying.

I was wondering what is the most up-to-date concensus on the topic, and I thought I'd seed the discussion with the quote in the title, from the video below (time stamp 17:45) -


Thoughts/experiences on iodine? Anecdotally I am feeling great lately energy-wise, dosing in the 10s of mg range for now and making sure I have the necessary co-factors as well (selenium, vit C, B vitamins, etc.)
 

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Hmmmm, that quote that you specified sounds a little sales-pitchy to me.

I don't know if there is an up to date consensus, but I do have this thread marked when it comes to a more in depth look at Peat's take on Iodine- Iodine, Supplement Reactions, Hormones And More - KMUD, 2016-02-19

Second poster Lindsay posts the studies that Peat sent her, along with this quote from Peat himself in regards to the issue-

"Large doses of iodine can be safe when used for a short time therapeutically, but one milligram or more per day, for a long period of time, is likely to harm the thyroid gland. Nascent (“newborn”) iodine can exist in a laboratory set-up, but it’s short-lived, and doesn’t continue in that state when it’s sold as a product. The incidence of thyroid cancer has doubled in the last 30 to 40 years, and it’s the most rapidly increasing cancer in the US."

(underlined part is Peat speaking favorably of high dose iodine uses, which seems to get lost frequently)

I agree with Peat that the "Nascent" iodine that's being sold is a gimmick, and truthfully, one that I didn't even understand when I first heard the claim. I didn't see how it could possibly be different from Lugols or KI. I'm dubious of the "Iodine Doctors" claims of huge doses of iodine being necessary, and specifically, the idea the diiodine (or the iodINE) form is somehow needed. I read through many of Travis's posts on the subject, and he is convinced it will get reduced to iodide quickly in the body, and that studies where they claim a huge difference between iodine and iodide are misrepresented to sell Iodoral.

But some of Peat's claims of excess iodine and the studies he cites don't convince me that higher doses (say, averaging 1-5mg a day) are that harmful. I personally do not see the connection to thyroid cancer.

Also, Travis has stated many times that he just doesn't see issues with KI, even in much higher doses (up to and past 100mg). The old school iodine doctors where using just KI, and in very high doses (sometimes 1 gram a day to several grams), and reported few and minor sides. I remember him stating specifically that the so called "Wolff-Chaikov effect" had to be induced in rats by injecting them with IV iodine, and a high blood plasma level you would never get from oral or trans-dermal iodine. So, pretty much all that experiment shows is, don't inject yourself with iodine.

All this lead to my personal views, which are- I purchased some 100mg KI tablets, and take them sporadically. Maybe 1 every two weeks, maybe 1-2 a week, maybe one a day, depending. I have a bottle of lugol's, and I use that for disinfecting cuts and scrapes, and fading moles and scars and such. I also put some in my waterpik regularly. And, I mix a some Lugols with MCT oil, and use it as sunscreen or suntan lotion. MCT is supposed to be 100% (or maybe more like 99.9999999998%) saturated, but the lugols has stayed in solution perfectly for me for weeks on end, even without shaking. I think the sides people get from the "Iodine Protocol" are most often due to the IodINE, simply because it's more reactive.

So, that's my stance.
 
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I don't think it's iodine that's needed, but glutathione and selenium:

 

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I‘ve tried to look from evolutionary and phylogenetic angles to extrapolate the role of iodine in human organism and food.
And while a definitive answer remains elusive, I‘m leaving to regarding Iodine as a very important and well tolerated element
 

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I've been reading about Iodine as a supplement and traditional healing medicine from decades ago, and I've read through a few threads here on the forum that have had vigorous debate between what Peat recommends ('no need for too much iodine') vs. what others have been saying.

I was wondering what is the most up-to-date concensus on the topic, and I thought I'd seed the discussion with the quote in the title, from the video below (time stamp 17:45) -


Thoughts/experiences on iodine? Anecdotally I am feeling great lately energy-wise, dosing in the 10s of mg range for now and making sure I have the necessary co-factors as well (selenium, vit C, B vitamins, etc.)
Any update here, man?
 

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I‘ve tried to look from evolutionary and phylogenetic angles to extrapolate the role of iodine in human organism and food.
And while a definitive answer remains elusive, I‘m leaving to regarding Iodine as a very important and well tolerated element
Great post and. Thinking
 

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A couple minutes into the video and I could tell they're trying to sell me something. Oh look, a link to buy "organic iodine" in the description. And apparently it's the only "fully organic, absorbable, bioavailable iodine on the market."

Is there truth to the title of this thread @haidut ?

Salting your food provides more than enough iodine right?
 

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I'm willing to overlook the fact that somewhat disseminating information is selling something related as well, I try and judge the information/argument on its merits alone. But I see your point, it's a bit troubling/concerning. But at the same time, operating outside of the "established industry" makes finances harder, does it not? After all, most alternative health gurus have to sell *something* to stay afloat.
 

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I'm willing to overlook the fact that somewhat disseminating information is selling something related as well, I try and judge the information/argument on its merits alone. But I see your point, it's a bit troubling/concerning. But at the same time, operating outside of the "established industry" makes finances harder, does it not? After all, most alternative health gurus have to sell *something* to stay afloat.

Playing the cancer card though? Then passively suggesting that their iodine is the only iodine that will work at full potential. Basically saying “you’re at risk for cancer without our product”

Are there any studies at all that give the title of this thread any ground to stand on?

Ray would’ve already addressed any cancer risk with thyroid supplementation.
 
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