Hgreen56
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I have read some topics here that are saying not to consume whey because high tryptophan content.
But i think this is bull****?
Ray Peat says that high tryptophan content of milk should not be problematic duo the high calcium content.
He says that it is the calcium to phosphate ratio is the major contributor in whether the trpytophan in the milk will be converted into excess serotonin or Niacan:
"the ratio of calcium to phosphorous should be very high. If under stress, the phosphate becomes more a problem and adds to the stress.
Meat and whole grains are major sourches of phosphate. You have te be more concerned with you calcium intake if you have a meat or grained based diet"
Well i looked for some calcium : phosphate ratios:
Ground beef: 13mg : 193mg
chicken breast: 14mg : 216mg
Milk skim: 123mg : 101mg
Whey: 103mg : 78mg
even whey has the lowest tryptophan versus other protein sources.
Ground beef: 148 mg
chicken breast: 202mg
Milk skim: 48mg
Whey: 16mg
Sourche: SELF Nutrition Data | Food Facts, Information & Calorie Calculator
|Also whey powder is the most bio-available protein
As a liquid, it moves through the digestive system quickly as compared with other protein sourches.
So whey is hardly stressful for the body. (Thats ray's goal right? avoid stress in all ways possible)
And whey contributes to satiety, giving it a potential role in appetite control.
So why avoid whey? muscle meat are more a concern if i ask me..
But i think this is bull****?
Ray Peat says that high tryptophan content of milk should not be problematic duo the high calcium content.
He says that it is the calcium to phosphate ratio is the major contributor in whether the trpytophan in the milk will be converted into excess serotonin or Niacan:
"the ratio of calcium to phosphorous should be very high. If under stress, the phosphate becomes more a problem and adds to the stress.
Meat and whole grains are major sourches of phosphate. You have te be more concerned with you calcium intake if you have a meat or grained based diet"
Well i looked for some calcium : phosphate ratios:
Ground beef: 13mg : 193mg
chicken breast: 14mg : 216mg
Milk skim: 123mg : 101mg
Whey: 103mg : 78mg
even whey has the lowest tryptophan versus other protein sources.
Ground beef: 148 mg
chicken breast: 202mg
Milk skim: 48mg
Whey: 16mg
Sourche: SELF Nutrition Data | Food Facts, Information & Calorie Calculator
|Also whey powder is the most bio-available protein
As a liquid, it moves through the digestive system quickly as compared with other protein sourches.
So whey is hardly stressful for the body. (Thats ray's goal right? avoid stress in all ways possible)
And whey contributes to satiety, giving it a potential role in appetite control.
So why avoid whey? muscle meat are more a concern if i ask me..
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