If Common Cold viruses like SARS-Cov-2 can mutate, why doesn't this happen in viruses that cause other disease?

[tankasnowgod]

More of a question for thought than anything else. I have long heard that the common cold is caused by "viruses," and that these viruses mutate every year or so. Hence, why many people can catch several colds a year, every year. Obviously, the same storyline is being rolled out with Covid. You don't just have to worry about SARS-Cov-2: Electric Boogaloo, but now the Delta Airlines variant, and the Lambada, Dance of Death variant, and whatever other nonsense they think of.

Putting aside the well documented problems with discovery, isolation, and detection for a moment.....

Why don't other types of viruses "mutate?" Why aren't we concerned with other forms?

Take Chickenpox. It's supposedly caused by the Varicella Zoster Virus. Chickenpox usually occurs once during childhood..... and that's it. If you do come down with a recurrence of the virus, it is usually several decades later, and takes on a slightly different form, of Shingles. So, the question....... how come there aren't several different forms of Chickenpox? How come we don't have Turkeypox, and Seagullpox, and Penguinpox, and Eaglepox, and Ostrichpox and so many other variations that we've run out of birds to name them after? Or do all these hundreds/thousands/millions exist, and they all basically present as the same disease, and once your body fought off one, it's pretty exceptional at fighting off them all?

You can apply this idea to measles, smallpox, HIV, or any other disease where a "virus" is the supposed source. In fact, the origins of vaccination came from the idea that an exposure to Cowpox was enough to give the body immunity from the more serious version of smallpox. It's pretty clear the talk of variants and "booster shots" runs counter to one of the initial postulates on vaccination. Although, they've broken many of their own rules during this pandemic narrative, so this in itself is nothing new.

But just something to ponder..... how come no one gets Eaglepox or Penguinpox, but we all just get Chickenpox?

 

[charlie]

"There is nothing new under the sun."

 

[Riesensackteil]

If you do come down with a recurrence of the virus, it is usually several decades later, and takes on a slightly different form, of Shingles

 

[tankasnowgod]

Of everything I wrote up there, I'm not sure why that line amused you so much. But, thank you!

 

[Marcine]

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[Tim Lundeen]

All bacteria and virus mutate, the question is what the "selection pressure" looks like.

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[Peatness]

All bacteria and virus mutate, the question is what the "selection pressure" looks like.

Variant Roulette (Evolution and Immunity Escape)

The Chloroquine Wars Part XLVI

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Interesting that the variants originate in areas where clinical trial took place

• The Alpha variant emerged in the UK in October, which was when Oxford-AstraZeneca was holding vaccine trials there.
• The Beta variant emerged in South Africa, and was first detected in December, 2020, at the tail end of trial periods for both Oxford-AstraZeneca and Pfizer vaccines. This variant carries three mutations in the spike protein.
• The Gamma variant was first detected in Japan, but soon after in Brazil, making the origin a little harder to determine. But since Japan has had far lower viral spread than Brazil, it makes the most sense that Brazil was the source. Both Oxford-AstraZeneca and Pfizer trialed their vaccines in Brazil.
• The Delta variant was first detected in India in October, 2020. India hosted numerous vaccine trials including one for Oxford-AstraZeneca and one for Covishield.

 

[tankasnowgod]

All bacteria and virus mutate, the question is what the "selection pressure" looks like.

Variant Roulette (Evolution and Immunity Escape)

The Chloroquine Wars Part XLVI

roundingtheearth.substack.com

So, back to the original question..... why don't we have hundreds or thousands of versions of chickenpox? Like, Eaglepox, Penguinpox, Ostrichpox, and such? Why aren't people coming down with different versions of this disease every year? Or a few times a year? And how could smallpox ever have been "eradicated?"

Basically, it's a one and done for about 50 years. Even if they do "mutate," we are just as successful at fighting off those mutations for decades. But many people catch 2-3 colds a year for decades on end. So, something doesn't add up in this explanation. If "mutation" can explain multiple colds, it should follow that other "viral diseases" would occur at more frequent intervals, too. But clearly, they don't.

 

[Peatness]

So, back to the original question..... why don't we have hundreds or thousands of versions of chickenpox? Like, Eaglepox, Penguinpox, Ostrichpox, and such? Why aren't people coming down with different versions of this disease every year? Or a few times a year? And how could smallpox ever have been "eradicated?"

Basically, it's a one and done for about 50 years. Even if they do "mutate," we are just as successful at fighting off those mutations for decades. But many people catch 2-3 colds a year for decades on end. So, something doesn't add up in this explanation. If "mutation" can explain multiple colds, it should follow that other "viral diseases" would occur at more frequent intervals, too. But clearly, they don't.

This sounds like a question for Dr Peat

 

[Riesensackteil]

This sounds like a question for Dr Peat

I dont think it needs answering because his questions unravel the fraudulent history of such viruses etc.

 

[Lizb]

More of a question for thought than anything else. I have long heard that the common cold is caused by "viruses," and that these viruses mutate every year or so. Hence, why many people can catch several colds a year, every year. Obviously, the same storyline is being rolled out with Covid. You don't just have to worry about SARS-Cov-2: Electric Boogaloo, but now the Delta Airlines variant, and the Lambada, Dance of Death variant, and whatever other nonsense they think of.

Putting aside the well documented problems with discovery, isolation, and detection for a moment.....

Why don't other types of viruses "mutate?" Why aren't we concerned with other forms?

Take Chickenpox. It's supposedly caused by the Varicella Zoster Virus. Chickenpox usually occurs once during childhood..... and that's it. If you do come down with a recurrence of the virus, it is usually several decades later, and takes on a slightly different form, of Shingles. So, the question....... how come there aren't several different forms of Chickenpox? How come we don't have Turkeypox, and Seagullpox, and Penguinpox, and Eaglepox, and Ostrichpox and so many other variations that we've run out of birds to name them after? Or do all these hundreds/thousands/millions exist, and they all basically present as the same disease, and once your body fought off one, it's pretty exceptional at fighting off them all?

You can apply this idea to measles, smallpox, HIV, or any other disease where a "virus" is the supposed source. In fact, the origins of vaccination came from the idea that an exposure to Cowpox was enough to give the body immunity from the more serious version of smallpox. It's pretty clear the talk of variants and "booster shots" runs counter to one of the initial postulates on vaccination. Although, they've broken many of their own rules during this pandemic narrative, so this in itself is nothing new.

But just something to ponder..... how come no one gets Eaglepox or Penguinpox, but we all just get Chickenpox?

Made me laugh. Thank you. Much needed.

 

[TheSir]

So, the question....... how come there aren't several different forms of Chickenpox?

You ask this, yet later on you yourself mention cowpox? There is also camelpox, monkeypox, raccoonpox and skunkpox. All of these are orthopoxviruses and there are more too, those are just the ones named after animals. Chickenpox though is not considered an orthopoxvirus, but a herpesvirus.

 

[tankasnowgod]

You ask this, yet later on you yourself mention cowpox? There is also camelpox, monkeypox, raccoonpox and skunkpox. All of these are orthopoxviruses and there are more too, those are just the ones named after animals. Chickenpox though is not considered an orthopoxvirus, but a herpesvirus.

Clearly, you missed the point.

You also didn't answer the question of why people don't come down with a sort of "Chickenpox" several times over childhood, or 2-3 times a year, like the common cold.

 

[TheSir]

Clearly, you missed the point.

You also didn't answer the question of why people don't come down with a sort of "Chickenpox" several times over childhood, or 2-3 times a year, like the common cold.

Surely you realize that 'common cold' is a catch-all term for hundreds of viruses, whereas chickenpox is a singular virus? Question: how many of these viruses does the average child contract even once? Note that if you catch a virus once, you generally won't catch it again.

 

[Jinju]

Surely you realize that 'common cold' is a catch-all term for hundreds of viruses, whereas chickenpox is a singular virus?

According to the prevailing theory that viruses mutate, doesn't the chickenpox virus mutate? Or do you mean to say that someone who has had it once will be 'immune' even to a mutated version of the chickenpox virus?

 

[TheSir]

According to the prevailing theory that viruses mutate, doesn't the chickenpox virus mutate? Or do you mean to say that someone who has had it once will be 'immune' even to a mutated version of the chickenpox virus?

It would depend on what a particular mutation consists of and whether the immune system would still be able to recognize it as the same virus. Chickenpox has several different geographically separated genotypes, but I'm not sure how immunity to one relates to others. It can be transmitted even decades later if it returns as shingles, which possibly explains genetic stability and lack of new mutations.

 

[tankasnowgod]

Surely you realize that 'common cold' is a catch-all term for hundreds of viruses, whereas chickenpox is a singular virus?

Now you are getting to the point (though still not seeing it). Supposedly, "common cold viruses mutate," which is part of the explanation why there are hundreds/thousands/millions of them. So then why does the SINGLE chickenpox virus NOT mutate, and stay the same chickenpox virus for decades/centuries at a time, never developing into different version that can re-infect people? Why can't people come down with chickenpox five times over a decade, or two to three times a year? Ditto for all other "viral diseases" that aren't the common cold.

Basically, why aren't there hundreds/thousands/millions of chickenpox viruses, if indeed, "viruses mutate?"

 

[Lizb]

Talking of all things pox.....
Monkeypox is new to me - just arrived in Texas

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[BrianF]

Guy I know told me that his kid caught chickenpox at the nursery twice, second time it was particularly bad. Obviously the kid had been vaccinated against chickenpox. I suppose what Im saying is, yes chickenpox, measles etc clearly do mutate and the increasing amount of vaccines probably contributes greatly to these mutations.

 

[tankasnowgod]

Guy I know told me that his kid caught chickenpox at the nursery twice, second time it was particularly bad. Obviously the kid had been vaccinated against chickenpox. I suppose what Im saying is, yes chickenpox, measles etc clearly do mutate and the increasing amount of vaccines probably contributes greatly to these mutations.

Why would a rare case where a child contracts it twice be a sign of mutation? Couldn't that be a sign that the child's immune system malfunctioned, or isn't as robust as the general population? In fact, if the cases are rare, it would be more highly suggestive of this.