I Think 5 Liters Of Milk A Day Gives Me Diarrhea, But I Don’t Know What Else To Eat

[redsun]

Looks like it provides B vitamins but not A,C, K, D, A. Maybe half the minerals which looks pretty good

Liver is still the best source of all fat solubles A, D, E, K if you are worried about that. Most here dont fret about vitamin A anymore and many avoid it altogether now because of Grant Generoux. Theres a vitamin A megathread about it.

 

[ShotTrue]

Interesting. Thanks very much @redsun

 

[Lynne]

I’m having a bit of a (mental) crisis. I need quite a lot of calories (at least 3000) to maintain my weight. However, I want to keep my PUFA very low, preferrably under 2 grams. So I drink about 5-6 liters of skim milk a day, and fill the remaining calories with rice, potatoes and a bit of fruit.

Lately however, my stool has been very liquidy and I have to go like 5 times a day. I think milk may be part of the culprit (I was also on a week-course of antibiotics when the problems got worse). I don’t know if it’s the lactose, whey, casein, or simply the amount of liquid.

Anyway, I want to cut back to 2 liters for a few days to see if things change. But I don’t know how to get all those calories without getting large amounts of pufa. I could add even more rice and potatoes and some fruit, but that’s about all I can think of.

Iirc you were drinking 2-3 liters a while back? Are you sure, it isn't just the sudden increase of lactose so your gut can't produce enough lactase and needs time to adjust? Why not try a small amount of lactase drops or capsules and slowly reduce the amount.

I have just discovered this problem which for me is much worse with reduced fat or skim milks than with whole milk. I get loose stool with onlly a small amount of any type of reduced fat milk (~150-200ml+), whereas I can drink around 1-1.5 lt of whole milk before the problem occurs. I suspect its something to do with the lactose but more FODMAP intolerance related than typical lactose intolerance since there's not a lot of difference in the amount of lactose in these milks, and actually a bit less in skim, and that perhaps the fat in whole milk is protective/buffering during digestion. I'll soon test a lactose free skim milk (has lactase added) and report back when done.

 

[Lynne]

You make it sound so complicated haha. I now have 6 variables: liquid, fat, casein, whey, lactose, and tryptophan. It’s gonna take a while to control for all of those.

So I tried lactose free skim milk and didn't get any digestive syptoms, so it seems like it was the lactose causing that, but I noticed more disturbed sleep (?tryptophan) and started to loose weight, which I can't afford to do as I'm very slim. Based on this I'm not going to buy any more milk for the time being.

 

[aquaman]

It's exactly what Stan recommends in The Vertical Diet, white rice and lean beef. That is the diet of a bodybuilder who knows how insulin works. Stan has read every single one of Ray's articles. I don't understand the aversion to this woe.

haven't heard of the vertical diet, seems interesting

The vertical diet seems like a bodybuilding diet with a carrot and OJ, and a bit of liver added .. ie way over-simplified, prescriptive Peaty diet. Oh, and store-bought chicken stock.

There are lots of examples of the food buying on the vertical diet Instagram. https://www.instagram.com/p/BwaOuw0A2h8/
https://www.instagram.com/p/Bv-fFQhghwo/
https://www.instagram.com/p/Bnh2Sd8B7IN/

Not sure if they realise that chicken stock has no collagen in it: it’s not gelatinous.

It’s bodybuilding plus 5% peat sprinkles :)

 

[ShotTrue]

Lol good way to put it

 

[HealingBoy]

Oh good God ... 5 liters a day ? Is it at least organic ?
Just 2 glasses make my stomach messed up and starts doing lot of noise.

 

[RisingSun]

Anyone noticing any difference in milk digestion if you drink it at room temperature vs straight out of the fridge?

Read a lot of reports stating it's easier on the stomach when had at room temperature