I Made My Testosterone Off The Scale High - Men's Health

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    Not sure what my BF % is.
     
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    Hard to say because you are flexing your abs but anywhere between 10-12% I would guess.
     
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    I do not consume large amounts of dairy. I might have 500ml of milk in any given week. No cheese or yoghurt.

    I was supplementing a natural calcium powder at one stage, but have since stopped.
     
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    Yeah you're spot on.

    The olive leaf does lower my blood pressure, but it somehow gives me this nice kick of energy when I take it.... Noradrenaline?

    Also, the Taurine I can definitely back off from now... I have been using it for months, it has been great.

    I do not supplement with Vitamin K2 since it always made me feel "off" a weird headspace feeling, like a heaviness of the head.
     
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    I've not noticed any major bile issues, normal stools to be honest, and plenty of carrots.

    You took 5 grams of Taurine and that boosted your T?

    Wow that is a low BP you mentioned, but this can be combatte easily hey with caffeine/salt.
     
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    This was my Testosterone levels about 2 years ago:

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    I wonder how drastically Vitamin E can lower estrogen, compared to say arimidex and letrazole etc.
     
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    Haha! Glad you found it useful. Are you trying to optimise your T?
     
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    I think the Cistanche has tonnes of credibility.

    I did another thread on it.

    This Herb Is Stronger Than Tribulus
     
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    Here's my DHT level according to blood test:
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    Hey man!

    I actually can use Taurine in the morning/midday at a dose of around 3 grams with NO sedation, just general calmness and energy.

    I may start experimenting more with coffee, but the reason I don't is that I lose track of my baseline energy levels with it. I always feel like I am borrowing energy from the future with caffeine.

    I'll tend to use my BrainX on it's own or with Phenylalanine if I want a boost.

    As for Prolactin, you raise an excellent point. I saw those threads about proalctin rising from even low doses of cypro.

    Last time I had my Prolactin levels were this:
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    I usually ejaculate via masturbation. I have never noticed any benefits from abstaining from ejaculation because I am actually dealing with PSSD, I RARELY orgasm and have massively reduced sensation down there.. (Can last for a very long time, but no pleasure) its been one of the most frustrating things I've dealt with and still have bandaid solutions.
     
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    I've since gotten my labs back from that day. I'd taken a break from coffee a few days prior. Salt not so much. Still untangling the labs with the variables I added, but I noticed my CRP was only .1 so can't complain.

    yeah, it was 5g for actually less than 3 weeks before I hit saturation point. I think that's the reason people often cycle it. I've chosen to just take lower, but more consistent, doses since and haven't hit that saturation.
     
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    I use T base and DMSO
     
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    not possible? If that same person has very high T then it’s very normal. Testosterone converts to E so high T in most cases equalls high E. Im a skinny guy and everytime I tested upper range or above range testosterone my E levels are about the same range of the scale. And when its normal/mid range then E is normal mid. It makes sense. A lot if symptoms of low T can actually be attributed to having to low E because of too low T. Estrogen is there to suppress LH feedback production by the hypothalamus. If you wouldnt make enough E from your T then your T levels would just rise even more without no conversion to Estrogen leading to no estrogen binding to the hypothalamus telling it to calm down. Testosterone and Estrogen levels go hand in hand.
     
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    What do you think this is due to? I have dealt with similar proble.s for years since pfs, but I also have numbness in brain which is more bothersome. Have you tried dry fasting for that to see if it might benefit?
     
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    I would cut the onions personally. Onions are know to cause hemolytic anemia in dogs as one example. Though dogs have an exaggerated response.

    Here's a study on onions being used to decrease iron over load and ferritin in rats.

    The Effects of Medicago Sativa and Allium Porrum on Iron Overload in Rats. - PubMed - NCBI

    Humans are not rats or dogs but I don't see it as a far stretch if a human consumed 4 onions a day that there may be a similar albeit lower response with regard to blood/iron measures.

    Onions do have good sulfur, antioxidant content, etc. But ultimately they do not want to be eaten like most vegetables, roots, plants ( built in defense mechanisms and anti-nutrients ).

    There are articles on PubMed about the effects of garlic - onions on red blood cell production and iron metabolism as well.
     
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    What vegetables, roots, tubers, etc to be eaten according to you?
     
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    This sounds ideal from a Peat perspective...for men anyway
     
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    Just a point not to eat any one plant in excess amounts. If you do eat plants rotation, variety, etc.

    Spinach as an example has high levels of oxalates. It also has anti-thyroid ( goitrogenic ) potential.

    Broccoli as another example is anti-thyroid ( goitrogenic ), has thiaminases which break down thiamine, and induces DNA fragmentation/damage.

    Most vegetables available are the ones selected over time which can be grown relatively easily with good yields, are relatively palatable, and minimally toxic to most people in reasonable quantities.
     
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    Not sure about ideal peat - altered iron metabolism due toxicity seems less ideal than maintaining low iron levels by minimizing iron intake or absorption.

    Garlic also effects cholesterol synthesis and metabolic pathways through HMG-CoA reductase inhibition like the statins. Not peat at all.

    It does tase good though in reasonable amounts...
     
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