Hypothyroidism

[HDD]

Hypoglycemia is common in those with hypothyroidism.


Hypoglycemia
Early symptoms include:

Confusion
Dizziness
Feeling shaky
Hunger
Headaches
Irritability
Pounding heart; racing pulse
Pale skin
Sweating
Trembling
Weakness
Anxiety
Without treatment, you might get more severe symptoms, including:

Poor coordination
Poor concentration
Numbness in mouth and tongue
Passing out

RP: "When the blood sugar falls, or when you have any stress, the adrenalin, after the glycogen is depleted, the adrenalin starts mobilizing free fatty acids out of your fat cells, but also out of your other tissues cells, where phospholipids are turning down very fast. And phospholipids will come into the blood, releasing free fatty acids. And if you’ve incorporated a lot of the polyunsaturated fats into your tissues, these free polyunsaturated fats happen to not only interfere with sugar metabolism, but they also signal more stress hormone production. So, they will tell your brain that the stress is worse than it was."

 

[messtafarian]

Oh, man. ILS. It's terrible, isn't it? Things going wrong and wrong and wrong, you go to doctors, you try to tell them about these outrageous symptoms and they just look at you and run tests and find nothing, and all the while you're waiting for someone to tell you how to fix it or to just respond to how *alarming* and weird your experiences are,not that they're the worst thing imaginable but they must mean something and it might mean you could get worse, and then you get confused because maybe you're not explaining it right or something and that's why there's no explanation, and there continues to be no explanation, and they've got nothing at ALL, so you go home and after all that effort, explaining, searching -- you're still sick.

I know. I know. I know. I am sorry. It's ***t. Really. How we persist, how *I* persist, would have utterly mystified me a couple years ago.

 

[tara]

post 99812 Hypoglycemia is common in those with hypothyroidism.


Hypoglycemia
Early symptoms include:

Confusion
Dizziness
Feeling shaky
Hunger
Headaches
Irritability
Pounding heart; racing pulse
Pale skin
Sweating
Trembling
Weakness
Anxiety
Without treatment, you might get more severe symptoms, including:

Poor coordination
Poor concentration
Numbness in mouth and tongue
Passing out

RP: "When the blood sugar falls, or when you have any stress, the adrenalin, after the glycogen is depleted, the adrenalin starts mobilizing free fatty acids out of your fat cells, but also out of your other tissues cells, where phospholipids are turning down very fast. And phospholipids will come into the blood, releasing free fatty acids. And if you’ve incorporated a lot of the polyunsaturated fats into your tissues, these free polyunsaturated fats happen to not only interfere with sugar metabolism, but they also signal more stress hormone production. So, they will tell your brain that the stress is worse than it was."

Boy do I recognise that list. I regularly had all but the last two, and I was close to fainting several times, and I had a patch of intermittent severe difficulty swallowing.

ILS, I don't think it would work for everyone, or that it would necessarily work for you, but my guess is that the large amount of butter Messta added to her diet were key, possibly along with the various proteins and veges. For some people, butter can be really easy on the digestive tract compared with lots of other things.

 

[messtafarian]

Or maybe it could be universalized this way: what are you really hungry for?

I sucked down a truckload of butter and never got tired of it..until I did about a week ago. For the moment my gut is brilliant but I bet the next time it starts to go hellish I will start craving butter because the body learns. Now that it knows there is Kerrygold in the world it will ask me for that if it runs into the same situation.

So what sounds amazing?

 

[iLoveSugar]

All them symptoms do have me to a T. Problem is, I have done everything to help that, frequent sugar feedings, with protein, etc. No meal or snack every makes me feel better, so I ruled that out.

 

[messtafarian]

When you say the food doesn't make you better, what thing is wrong that you are eating to fix? All of the above symptoms? Some of them?

 

[messtafarian]

Actually I'd like to suggest something to you. I know you're miserable and this is tiring. But I know every single person on this forum would like nothing more than to see your health turn around. What do you think about starting a new thread with a very detailed history of what is going on with you, starting way back , up to now? People keep lobbing suggestions at you but without a full picture it could be something you tried before, there could be a symptom that ties it all together, and you could at least not have to answer the same suggestions over and over again.

Also it could be a written clinical picture the next time you go to see a doctor so they are not starting all over again either. I know it's a pain to write it all out but at least you would only have to do it once.

 

[kaybb]

post 99824 All them symptoms do have me to a T. Problem is, I have done everything to help that, frequent sugar feedings, with protein, etc. No meal or snack every makes me feel better, so I ruled that out.

You may have already read it but Haidut post on Sept 5th is really good. Subject is caffine and healing the liver so thyroid treatment or other treatments will work.

 

[Such_Saturation]

I also wouldn't feel comfortable proposing anything without knowing that you have not tried it yet. But the information is very scrambled around.

 

[haidut]

post 99824 All them symptoms do have me to a T. Problem is, I have done everything to help that, frequent sugar feedings, with protein, etc. No meal or snack every makes me feel better, so I ruled that out.

Have you thought of getting a direct ATP infusion/supplement? In states of extreme energy depletion giving the cells some direct supply of ATP can have dramatic effect on health and metabolism.
A doctor should be able to give you an ATP infusion due to the extreme fatigue, and if not, then you can get some oral ATP supplements online. A largish dose of niacinamide can do the same thing as it raises NAD levels and NAD is perfectly correlated with ATP. One cannot rise/fall without the other doing the same. About 2g of niacinamide have been shown to replenish NAD levels in extremely exhausted people that were on the verge of becoming comatose. The oral dose of ATP is anywhere from 300mg up to 1g. Most supplements on the market have 50mg - 150mg per pill.

 

[Such_Saturation]

post 99869

post 99824 All them symptoms do have me to a T. Problem is, I have done everything to help that, frequent sugar feedings, with protein, etc. No meal or snack every makes me feel better, so I ruled that out.

Have you thought of getting a direct ATP infusion/supplement? In states of extreme energy depletion giving the cells some direct supply of ATP can have dramatic effect on health and metabolism.
A doctor should be able to give you an ATP infusion due to the extreme fatigue, and if not, then you can get some oral ATP supplements online. A largish dose of niacinamide can do the same thing as it raises NAD levels and NAD is perfectly correlated with ATP. One cannot rise/fall without the other doing the same. About 2g of niacinamide have been shown to replenish NAD levels in extremely exhausted people that were on the verge of becoming comatose. The oral dose of ATP is anywhere from 300mg up to 1g. Most supplements on the market have 50mg - 150mg per pill.

Where could we find that?

 

[haidut]

post 99874

post 99869

post 99824 All them symptoms do have me to a T. Problem is, I have done everything to help that, frequent sugar feedings, with protein, etc. No meal or snack every makes me feel better, so I ruled that out.

Have you thought of getting a direct ATP infusion/supplement? In states of extreme energy depletion giving the cells some direct supply of ATP can have dramatic effect on health and metabolism.
A doctor should be able to give you an ATP infusion due to the extreme fatigue, and if not, then you can get some oral ATP supplements online. A largish dose of niacinamide can do the same thing as it raises NAD levels and NAD is perfectly correlated with ATP. One cannot rise/fall without the other doing the same. About 2g of niacinamide have been shown to replenish NAD levels in extremely exhausted people that were on the verge of becoming comatose. The oral dose of ATP is anywhere from 300mg up to 1g. Most supplements on the market have 50mg - 150mg per pill.

Where could we find that?

Well, there are many supplements on the market but here are two:
http://www.vitacost.com/progressive-lab ... n-capsules
http://www.swansonvitamins.com/swanson- ... g-60-sgels

And here are some studies with oral ATP:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25006331
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24813646
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24330670
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15179168
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10871303
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10846006

 

[Such_Saturation]

 

[RPDiciple]

post 99876

post 99874

post 99869

post 99824 All them symptoms do have me to a T. Problem is, I have done everything to help that, frequent sugar feedings, with protein, etc. No meal or snack every makes me feel better, so I ruled that out.

Have you thought of getting a direct ATP infusion/supplement? In states of extreme energy depletion giving the cells some direct supply of ATP can have dramatic effect on health and metabolism.
A doctor should be able to give you an ATP infusion due to the extreme fatigue, and if not, then you can get some oral ATP supplements online. A largish dose of niacinamide can do the same thing as it raises NAD levels and NAD is perfectly correlated with ATP. One cannot rise/fall without the other doing the same. About 2g of niacinamide have been shown to replenish NAD levels in extremely exhausted people that were on the verge of becoming comatose. The oral dose of ATP is anywhere from 300mg up to 1g. Most supplements on the market have 50mg - 150mg per pill.

Where could we find that?

Well, there are many supplements on the market but here are two:
http://www.vitacost.com/progressive-lab ... n-capsules
http://www.swansonvitamins.com/swanson- ... g-60-sgels

And here are some studies with oral ATP:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25006331
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24813646
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24330670
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15179168
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10871303
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10846006

Cool
What about headache from niacinamide? 2grams or high doses can give some people insane headaches?

 

[haidut]

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post 99876

post 99874

post 99869

post 99824 All them symptoms do have me to a T. Problem is, I have done everything to help that, frequent sugar feedings, with protein, etc. No meal or snack every makes me feel better, so I ruled that out.

Have you thought of getting a direct ATP infusion/supplement? In states of extreme energy depletion giving the cells some direct supply of ATP can have dramatic effect on health and metabolism.
A doctor should be able to give you an ATP infusion due to the extreme fatigue, and if not, then you can get some oral ATP supplements online. A largish dose of niacinamide can do the same thing as it raises NAD levels and NAD is perfectly correlated with ATP. One cannot rise/fall without the other doing the same. About 2g of niacinamide have been shown to replenish NAD levels in extremely exhausted people that were on the verge of becoming comatose. The oral dose of ATP is anywhere from 300mg up to 1g. Most supplements on the market have 50mg - 150mg per pill.

Where could we find that?

Well, there are many supplements on the market but here are two:
http://www.vitacost.com/progressive-lab ... n-capsules
http://www.swansonvitamins.com/swanson- ... g-60-sgels

And here are some studies with oral ATP:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25006331
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24813646
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24330670
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15179168
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10871303
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10846006

Cool
What about headache from niacinamide? 2grams or high doses can give some people insane headaches?

Yeah, I guess niacinamide could give side effects but for the people where this treatment is used it probably does not matter. I don't think the average Petarian should be gobbling up 2g niacinamide on a regular basis. Even the study with the exhausted people used it as a one-time only protocol and then they were able to resume normal activity and diet. I guess taking with a larger meal should mitigate some of the negative effects of niacinamide, which are mostly due to hypoglycemia.

 

[iLoveSugar]

Stay tuned, I am going to write down my entire history on a new thread so people can see my entire journey thus far.