Hypothyroidism, Adrenaline. I Really NEED HELP :(

[Tristan Loscha]

I eat Milk, yoghurt, Che


I feel good with thyroid, why I should lower it?

"I eat Milk, yoghurt, Che"

How much,what else,what is che.

 

[Jacob28]

She probably mean Cheese( all nouns in german start with a capital letter :)

 

[Jacob28]

Also you may try some mianserin, if you can get it. Start with very small, tiny dose like 1-3 mg. It's quite useful( at least in my case) for reducing anxiety/adrenaline, because it doesn't make you so groggy as cypro does, and doesn't lower acetylocholine, which is somewhat desirable. Though you have to be carefull, cuz higher doses will make you sleepy anyway.
Very good for sleep, it induces nice, chill out state, with better dreams, muscles are relaxed too.
But it is only 'symptomatic treatment'.

 

[Risingfire]

Order an NDT supplement..

+1

 

[jmojo]

As others have already said, please stop taking all supplements and hormones for a bit. I would take at least two full weeks off from them to let your body get back to a baseline. I don't think that t4 is helping you and might even be causing you extra stress, leading to increased adrenaline. DHEA and pregnenolone may be causing more stress and imbalance as well. Focusing on diet and lifestyle choices that minimize stress but also make you feel human are very important. You wouldn't believe how good you feel when you participate in activities that make you feel human. Start slow. Just going for a short walk in a new environment or having a short talk with a neighbor or friend can be very helpful.

 

[Goobz]

My sleep is very bad, I cant fall asleep easily, i sleep at 3am I am not getting tired.... I can’t do sports because I get adrenaline and my heart will racing too high. I think exercise in a stress situation is not good vor the body, I’ Ve played soccer for 20 years after those problems I quit it.

I think exercise for anxious people is sometimes the best thing, as long as it's increased gradually. If you see the symptoms of anxiety as "preparing your body to deal with threat" then it's really priming your body with the energy to move very quickly.

I tend to view not exercising when one is very stressed to be akin to "immobilisation stress", where rats are stressed and unable to move. If theyre given then opportunity to "act out" their stress via movement, or even shaking, they cope much better. Ray has written about this a bit.

This is obviously very different to over exerting yourself if you're very run down. Don't do that. I'm just warning about the dangers of avoiding exercise completely, when its sometimes the very thing anxious and stressed people need.

 

[broozer]

hi OP this is a problm i can relate. 50mcg T4 + selenium with lots off coffee send me in paranoia/pychosis.
pregnenolone (less then 10drop stressnon) gave me relaxion first but unability to sleep. DHEA i like it still, its for immune system and in2-3g doses no etrogenic effekt. im depressed and if it keeps CRH in check then its good.
so i stopped selenium, cut thyoroid to 25 (witnin 5months). i think this tapering is crucial but takes time.
have you tried shorttime benzos for sleep? or maybe agomelatine as your circadian rhythm is very delayed. i discovered a new trick: when i awake way to early but feel the stress is lready on, i put a little testosterone gel on my thighs and on i sleep 4h like a baby.
you might try these. but def get your bloods tested before. whats your bodyfat right now?

 

[Lizb]

Earlier in the year I heard Ray say he was unable to find any good pregnenolone. I've tried two brands and both make my symptoms worse.

 

[Barbarossa]

Does the thyroid make you feel more or less anxious? Have you tested it?

With thyroid i feel less anxious definitely, but upping dosage causes adrenaline sensitivity for some days! And I feel less cold after some weeks

 

[Tristan Loscha]

hi OP this is a problm i can relate. 50mcg T4 + selenium with lots off coffee send me in paranoia/pychosis.
pregnenolone (less then 10drop stressnon) gave me relaxion first but unability to sleep. DHEA i like it still, its for immune system and in2-3g doses no etrogenic effekt. im depressed and if it keeps CRH in check then its good.
so i stopped selenium, cut thyoroid to 25 (witnin 5months). i think this tapering is crucial but takes time.
have you tried shorttime benzos for sleep? or maybe agomelatine as your circadian rhythm is very delayed. i discovered a new trick: when i awake way to early but feel the stress is lready on, i put a little testosterone gel on my thighs and on i sleep 4h like a baby.
you might try these. but def get your bloods tested before. whats your bodyfat right now?

i read about different psychoses,and some can be a combined deficiency of Magnesium and B-Vitamins,especially B6.
It is needed to reduce Glutamate to GABA,and with insufficient CNS-Mg,B6 does not
transform properly.

 

[ebs]

I would taper down or quit the Mirtazapine. It can cause or intensify
these symptoms due to elevated norepinephrine. If you use it for sleep than taper it down to 7.5mg for two weeks and then try to replace it with doxylamine succinate (Unisom).

 

[Barbarossa]

I would taper down or quit the Mirtazapine. It can cause or intensify
these symptoms due to elevated norepinephrine. If you use it for sleep than taper it down to 7.5mg for two weeks and then try to replace it with doxylamine succinate (Unisom).

I have got Cyproheptadin from my doc, and Tianeptine as well..

 

[ebs]

i read about different psychoses,and some can be a combined deficiency of Magnesium and B-Vitamins,especially B6.
It is needed to reduce Glutamate to GABA,and with insufficient CNS-Mg,B6 does not
transform properly.

Interesting. I've supplemented with b vitamins for years in relatively lowish doses (b6 6-12mg) and yet a recent blood test revealed (to my suprise) that I had five times the upper limit of b6 in my blood. Yet each time I supplement b6 I definitely notice its effect so it does seem my body utilizes it... Needless to say I ceased supplementation.

Could you provide studies that support your statement or elaborate on it? Due to previous and current chronic pain I definitely seem to experience elevated glutamate symptoms which is why I used b vitamins in the first place. And it does help lift my mood and decrease some of the glutamate symptoms so I don't know what to make of this...

Btw for the same reasons mentioned previously I'm also supplementing with magnesium (400-600mg) for years so I very much doubt I have a defiency. Blood serum was in normal range. And I always notice immediate effects.

 

[intotheether]

Peating is useless for anxiety. I was also where you are a few years ago. Also couldnt drive due to huge phobias and anxiety.

Now, succeeding in my career, travelling, exploring, have a great life overall and am on my way.

Forget Peating for now. You will need to restore yourself to emotional balance. You will need Peat's work for rebuilding your body following recovery from anxiety.

Look into: Dr. Claire Weekes, Charles Linden (The Linden Method saved my life), and get yourself out of the health space and into life.

Paint, draw, go to classes, make things, write, play instruments, socialise. You need your brain to switch this off.

Good luck brother. I was once you. I don't use this forum much, but I can say that I wasted many years thinking that this stuff could help anxiety. It simply won't. You can only recover from anxiety if you're going back to emotional balance.

 

[ebs]

I have got Cyproheptadin from my doc, and Tianeptine as well..

I've found doxylamine comes closest to Mirtazapine's antihistamine effect for sleep.

 

[thomas00]

lol psychology is a scam and the Linden Method is up there with Herbalife

 

[redsun]

Interesting. I've supplemented with b vitamins for years in relatively lowish doses (b6 6-12mg) and yet a recent blood test revealed (to my suprise) that I had five times the upper limit of b6 in my blood. Yet each time I supplement b6 I definitely notice its effect so it does seem my body utilizes it... Needless to say I ceased supplementation.

Could you provide studies that support your statement or elaborate on it? Due to previous and current chronic pain I definitely seem to experience elevated glutamate symptoms which is why I used b vitamins in the first place. And it does help lift my mood and decrease some of the glutamate symptoms so I don't know what to make of this...

Btw for the same reasons mentioned previously I'm also supplementing with magnesium (400-600mg) for years so I very much doubt I have a defiency. Blood serum was in normal range. And I always notice immediate effects.

Maybe because your B6 isnt being activated? You need FAD(riboflavin) to activate it.

The issue is more so noradrenaline and possibly adrenaline. Niacinamide can reduce adrenaline. 300mg spaced throughout the day. Zinc and supposedly manganese will reduce conversion of dopamine to noradrenaline. Its best to increase zinc intake from foods. Food choices would be red meat, oysters. This should considerably start to improve anxiety. If you can eat oysters everyday which are packed with zinc as well as still have some copper and iron(as to not create imbalances) that would be the best way.

 

[Faith]

I used T4 only for over 25 years. I was functional but just barely. It wasn't until last year when my new Doctor added T3 that many of my symptoms began to be resolved. But my anxiety level skyrocketed and I developed tremors and palpitations and my tsh was 0.01. My Doc now has me taking only T3. This has made all the difference. I believe that the T4 only therapy for so many years did me harm.

 

[wintagal]

Did your doctor test cortisol? Endocrinologist manuals all say to test cortisol before giving thyroid. Thyroid requires more cortisol. If your cortisol production can't increase enough, you may have symptoms of hyperthyroidism due to the lack of cortisol.