Hydrogen Water - Insanely Strong Reaction

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Hey ya'll,

Hydrogen water flew under my radar many years ago as I originally assumed it was a complete scam and had no benefits.
But after re-visiting it and diving deep into some of the underground research papers, I was actually quite blown away…

Did you know the earliest publications on hydrogen as a medical gas was in 1975!

It's gaining significant attention from academic researchers, medical doctors, and physicians around the world for its recently reported therapeutic potential.
Eg. Hydrogen Water Nobel Prize Nominee Dr GARTH NICOLSON

Studies suggest that ingestion of is beneficial for:

✅ Diabetes (1).

✅ Metabolic syndrome (2).

✅ Hyperlipidemia (3).

✅ Rheumatoid arthritis (4).

✅ Parkinson’s disease (4).

✅ Mitochondrial dysfunction (5).

✅ Exercise performance + athletic recovery time (6).

✅ Wound healing (7).

✅ Improvements to blood flow (8).

INCREASES GROWTH HORMONE:
  • A pioneering study by Japanese group found that 4-day administration of (~ 0.04 mM H2) increases expression of mRNA encoding ghrelin, a growth hormone secretagogue (13).
INSULIN SENSITIVITY:
  • Shown incredible promise in assisting both in healthy glucose levels as well as increasing insulin sensitivity in both animals and human studies of metabolic syndrome and diabetes- both types I and II (14).
GUT HEALTH:
  • The consumption of improved the diversity and abundance of the gut flora in athletes (6).
  • water has shown protective effects on the imbalance of intestinal microbiota, reducing the SCFAs production and the higher diarrhoea rate (7).
SKIN HEALTH:
  • The potential benefits for include wrinkle reduction, atopic dermatitis, psoriasis and skin lesions, pressure ulcers, as well as UV damage (9, 10).
SPORTS PERFORMANCE:
 

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Dr Peat’s reply on my hydrogen gas question:

“I would be cautious with the hydrogen generating tablets, but hydrogen gas is plausible as an antiinflammatory supplement. I think any produced by bacteria might be beneficial too.”
Methods Enzymol. 2015;555:289-317.
Molecular hydrogen as a novel antioxidant: overview of the advantages of hydrogen
for medical applications.
Ohta S(1).
(1)Department of Biochemistry and Cell Biology, Institute of Development and
Aging Sciences, Graduate School of Medicine, Nippon Medical School, Kawasaki,
Japan. Electronic address: ohta@nms.ac.jp.
Molecular hydrogen (H2) was believed to be inert and nonfunctional in mammalian
cells. We overturned this concept by demonstrating that H2 reacts with highly
reactive oxidants such as hydroxyl radical ((•)OH) and peroxynitrite (ONOO(-))
inside cells. H2 has several advantages exhibiting marked effects for medical
applications: it is mild enough neither to disturb metabolic redox reactions nor
to affect signaling by reactive oxygen species. Therefore, it should have no or
little adverse effects. H2 can be monitored with an H2-specific electrode or by
gas chromatography. H2 rapidly diffuses into tissues and cells to exhibit
efficient effects. Thus, we proposed the potential of H2 for preventive and
therapeutic applications. There are several methods to ingest or consume H2:
inhaling H2 gas, drinking H2-dissolved water (H2-water), injecting H2-dissolved
saline (H2-saline), taking an H2 bath, or dropping H2-saline onto the eyes.
Recent publications revealed that, in addition to the direct neutralization of
highly reactive oxidants, H2 indirectly reduces oxidative stress by regulating
the expression of various genes. Moreover, by regulating gene expression, H2
functions as an anti-inflammatory, antiallergic, and antiapoptotic molecule, and
stimulates energy metabolism. In addition to growing evidence obtained by model
animal experiments, extensive clinical examinations were performed or are under
way. Since most drugs specifically act on their specific targets, H2 seems to
differ from conventional pharmaceutical drugs. Owing to its great efficacy and
lack of adverse effects, H2 has potential for clinical applications for many
diseases.
Surgery. 2015 Aug;158(2):399-407.
Hydrogen inhalation protects against acute lung injury induced by hemorrhagic
shock and resuscitation.
Kohama K(1), Yamashita H(2), Aoyama-Ishikawa M(2), Takahashi T(3), Billiar TR(4),
Nishimura T(1), Kotani J(1), Nakao A(5).
(1)Department of Emergency, Disaster and Critical Care Medicine, Hyogo College of
Medicine, Nishinomiya, Japan.
(2)Kobe University Graduate School of Health Science, Kobe, Hyogo, Japan.
(3)Faculty of Health and Welfare Science, Okayama Prefectural University,
Okayama, Japan.
(4)Department of Surgery, University of Pittsburgh, Pittsburgh, PA.
(5)Department of Emergency, Disaster and Critical Care Medicine, Hyogo College of
Medicine, Nishinomiya, Japan. Electronic address: qq-nakao@hyo-med.ac.jp.
INTRODUCTION: Hemorrhagic shock followed by fluid resuscitation (HS/R) triggers
an inflammatory response and causes pulmonary inflammation that can lead to acute
lung injury (ALI). Hydrogen, a therapeutic gas, has potent cytoprotective,
antiinflammatory, and antioxidant effects. This study examined the effects of
inhaled hydrogen on ALI caused by HS/R.
METHODS: Rats were subjected to hemorrhagic shock by withdrawing blood to lower
blood pressure followed by resuscitation with shed blood and saline to restore
blood pressure. After HS/R, the rats were maintained in a control gas of similar
composition to room air or exposed to 1.3% hydrogen.
RESULTS: HS/R induced ALI, as demonstrated by significantly impaired gas
exchange, congestion, edema, cellular infiltration, and hemorrhage in the lungs.
Hydrogen inhalation mitigated lung injury after HS/R, as indicated by
significantly improved gas exchange and reduced cellular infiltration and
hemorrhage. Hydrogen inhalation did not affect hemodynamic status during HS/R.
Exposure to 1.3% hydrogen significantly attenuated the upregulation of the
messenger RNAs for several proinflammatory mediators induced by HS/R. Lipid
peroxidation was reduced significantly in the presence of hydrogen, indicating
antioxidant effects.
CONCLUSION: Hydrogen, administered through inhalation, may exert potent
therapeutic effects against ALI induced by HS/R and attenuate the activation of
inflammatory cascades.
Copyright © 2015 Elsevier Inc. All rights reserved.
 

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Following this thread with interest.

Ive used molecular hydrogen gas a couple of times, breathed in via the nose. I felt amazing afterwards wıth great muscle relaxatıon ın areas ın whıch ım usually extremely tıght and shaky (I have some PD-lıke symptoms).

However I have chronıc sınus problems whıch I belıeve are a major cause of my ıllness. And I thınk perhaps some of the bugs that lıve ın my nasal passages.... they also lıked the hydrogen. And ı got a nasty flare up of sınusıtıs. Thıs has happened twıce now. I seem to remember readıng how all lıvıng thıngs requıre hydrogen so that was my guess for an explanatıon at the tıme.

Ive been wantıng to try the hydrogen water to see ıf I can get the benefıts wıthout feedıng the hydrogen to the bugs ın my nasal passages
 

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Hydrogen water is incredible. If I could kick myself in the butt for blowing it off when I first heard about it, I would. But alas, I will play catch up as best I can. :D
 

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Dr Peat’s reply on my hydrogen gas question:

“I would be cautious with the hydrogen generating tablets, but hydrogen gas is plausible as an antiinflammatory supplement. I think any produced by bacteria might be beneficial too.”
Methods Enzymol. 2015;555:289-317.
Molecular hydrogen as a novel antioxidant: overview of the advantages of hydrogen
for medical applications.
Ohta S(1).
(1)Department of Biochemistry and Cell Biology, Institute of Development and
Aging Sciences, Graduate School of Medicine, Nippon Medical School, Kawasaki,
Japan. Electronic address: ohta@nms.ac.jp.
Molecular hydrogen (H2) was believed to be inert and nonfunctional in mammalian
cells. We overturned this concept by demonstrating that H2 reacts with highly
reactive oxidants such as hydroxyl radical ((•)OH) and peroxynitrite (ONOO(-))
inside cells. H2 has several advantages exhibiting marked effects for medical
applications: it is mild enough neither to disturb metabolic redox reactions nor
to affect signaling by reactive oxygen species. Therefore, it should have no or
little adverse effects. H2 can be monitored with an H2-specific electrode or by
gas chromatography. H2 rapidly diffuses into tissues and cells to exhibit
efficient effects. Thus, we proposed the potential of H2 for preventive and
therapeutic applications. There are several methods to ingest or consume H2:
inhaling H2 gas, drinking H2-dissolved water (H2-water), injecting H2-dissolved
saline (H2-saline), taking an H2 bath, or dropping H2-saline onto the eyes.
Recent publications revealed that, in addition to the direct neutralization of
highly reactive oxidants, H2 indirectly reduces oxidative stress by regulating
the expression of various genes. Moreover, by regulating gene expression, H2
functions as an anti-inflammatory, antiallergic, and antiapoptotic molecule, and
stimulates energy metabolism. In addition to growing evidence obtained by model
animal experiments, extensive clinical examinations were performed or are under
way. Since most drugs specifically act on their specific targets, H2 seems to
differ from conventional pharmaceutical drugs. Owing to its great efficacy and
lack of adverse effects, H2 has potential for clinical applications for many
diseases.
Surgery. 2015 Aug;158(2):399-407.
Hydrogen inhalation protects against acute lung injury induced by hemorrhagic
shock and resuscitation.
Kohama K(1), Yamashita H(2), Aoyama-Ishikawa M(2), Takahashi T(3), Billiar TR(4),
Nishimura T(1), Kotani J(1), Nakao A(5).
(1)Department of Emergency, Disaster and Critical Care Medicine, Hyogo College of
Medicine, Nishinomiya, Japan.
(2)Kobe University Graduate School of Health Science, Kobe, Hyogo, Japan.
(3)Faculty of Health and Welfare Science, Okayama Prefectural University,
Okayama, Japan.
(4)Department of Surgery, University of Pittsburgh, Pittsburgh, PA.
(5)Department of Emergency, Disaster and Critical Care Medicine, Hyogo College of
Medicine, Nishinomiya, Japan. Electronic address: qq-nakao@hyo-med.ac.jp.
INTRODUCTION: Hemorrhagic shock followed by fluid resuscitation (HS/R) triggers
an inflammatory response and causes pulmonary inflammation that can lead to acute
lung injury (ALI). Hydrogen, a therapeutic gas, has potent cytoprotective,
antiinflammatory, and antioxidant effects. This study examined the effects of
inhaled hydrogen on ALI caused by HS/R.
METHODS: Rats were subjected to hemorrhagic shock by withdrawing blood to lower
blood pressure followed by resuscitation with shed blood and saline to restore
blood pressure. After HS/R, the rats were maintained in a control gas of similar
composition to room air or exposed to 1.3% hydrogen.
RESULTS: HS/R induced ALI, as demonstrated by significantly impaired gas
exchange, congestion, edema, cellular infiltration, and hemorrhage in the lungs.
Hydrogen inhalation mitigated lung injury after HS/R, as indicated by
significantly improved gas exchange and reduced cellular infiltration and
hemorrhage. Hydrogen inhalation did not affect hemodynamic status during HS/R.
Exposure to 1.3% hydrogen significantly attenuated the upregulation of the
messenger RNAs for several proinflammatory mediators induced by HS/R. Lipid
peroxidation was reduced significantly in the presence of hydrogen, indicating
antioxidant effects.
CONCLUSION: Hydrogen, administered through inhalation, may exert potent
therapeutic effects against ALI induced by HS/R and attenuate the activation of
inflammatory cascades.
Copyright © 2015 Elsevier Inc. All rights reserved.


Interesting. I wonder why Hydrogen water tablets that I used slowed down my breathing, to LONG deep breaths... similar to high dose Biotin... Could it be increasing CO2 production?
@haidut
 

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Hydrogen water is incredible. If I could kick myself in the butt for blowing it off when I first heard about it, I would. But alas, I will play catch up as best I can. :D

Hahah!!

We're in the same boat then!

So much therapeutic potential.

I think I found a study mentioning it increasing cAMP -
"Hydrogen is also thought to increase the ATP production in mitochondria [16]. ATP is converted intracellularly into cAMP by AC. "
 

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Using hydrogen as a potential antioxidant has multiple advantages: It may effectively neutralize hydroxy radicals present in live cells, unlike most known antioxidants, which cannot successfully enter the target organelles. Hydrogen has good distribution characteristics, and it can penetrate biomembranes and diffuse into the cytoplasm, mitochondrion and nucleus. Although hydrogen's activity is mild, its rapid gas diffusion properties are very effective in reducing the toxicity of free radicals in cells.

The hydrogen gas mainly enters the blood circulation following entry into the human body and is mainly excreted with respiration, it is not metabolized via the liver or kidneys, and it has no toxicity on human body.
 

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Following this thread with interest.

Ive used molecular hydrogen gas a couple of times, breathed in via the nose. I felt amazing afterwards wıth great muscle relaxatıon ın areas ın whıch ım usually extremely tıght and shaky (I have some PD-lıke symptoms).

However I have chronıc sınus problems whıch I belıeve are a major cause of my ıllness. And I thınk perhaps some of the bugs that lıve ın my nasal passages.... they also lıked the hydrogen. And ı got a nasty flare up of sınusıtıs. Thıs has happened twıce now. I seem to remember readıng how all lıvıng thıngs requıre hydrogen so that was my guess for an explanatıon at the tıme.

Ive been wantıng to try the hydrogen water to see ıf I can get the benefıts wıthout feedıng the hydrogen to the bugs ın my nasal passages

Interesting. Thanks for sharing. Never seen a link to sinus before.

If you do try the tablets, report back. I just found out that those ones that I tried are far more potent than others on the market.
 

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Thought maybe I would give it a try but way to expensive lol
 
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I’m trying the pills. But I won’t use them for long. I will use the machines. Because I am concerned about magnesium particles persorbing and clogging up arterioles etc. I will just use this to test.
 

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I’m trying the pills. But I won’t use them for long. I will use the machines. Because I am concerned about magnesium particles persorbing and clogging up arterioles etc. I will just use this to test.


Ahhh what do you mean magnesium particles clogging up arterioles?! With the tablets ?

Also, I am trying to establish whether Hydrogen water would LOWER Cortisol??

Any ideas?
 

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Never even heard of this, after 10 years of looking into health and diet! Intrigued.
 

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This seems promising.

" oral intake of HW prevented an elevation of blood lactate during heavy exercise"
Pilot study: Effects of drinking hydrogen-rich water on muscle fatigue caused by acute exercise in elite athletes. - PubMed - NCBI

...that kind of speaks for itself. It seems like hydrogen water enhances oxidative metabolism, which is always a good sign .

I have also been in a facebood group for hydrogen water where there have been lots of good reviews but never got around to try it. Maybe I will now.

AND according to this study it lowers cholesterol ,which might be great , if that lowering is thyroid driven, which means that more cholesterol is converted to beneficial hormones like pregenenolone, progesterone ,etc.
Supplementation of hydrogen-rich water improves lipid and glucose metabolism in patients with type 2 diabetes or impaired glucose tolerance. - PubMed - NCBI
 

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I admit I'm still a skeptic, but look at this:

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Quality of life indices were NOT altered by HRW

It seems like their only benefits were from exercise? Not that that's a bad thing, but my main thing is trying to get my quality of life back...
 

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I agree. The link posted was almost 60 dollars for a bottle of 60.

There must be cheaper reliable sources of tablets - anyone have any leads?
If I knew for a fact it would give good benefits then could buy it but I've tried so many things that don't work so not spending that much just for it to do nothing.
 

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There was a lot about this over at hackstasis a while ago. I think the conclusion was that it caused a lot of serious problems.
 
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