Husband has alarming level of manganese on his HTMA test. Thoughts?

[StrongMom]

I assume you are talking cascara sagrada and not the cascara tea (coffee cherry tea.)

Yes, cascara sagrada from Health Natura..

 

[Jerkboy]

People who go bald often have low manganese. Is your spouse bald?

Also manganese can be high on test when fasting.

High dosage of zinc will lower manganese.

Good Luck.

 

[I'm.No.One]

People who go bald often have low manganese. Is your spouse bald?

Also manganese can be high on test when fasting.

High dosage of zinc will lower manganese.

Good Luck.

He's the complete opposite of bald. Full head of hair, beard all the way down to his belt, basically if hair can grow somewhere it does ?

We don't fast, other than the 8 hours we sleep every night.

His zinc is already high in relation to copper so more zinc would likely tank his copper levels even further.

 

[GorillaHead]

I beleive thiamine I think greatly depletes manganese..

 

[David PS]

I beleive thiamine I think greatly depletes manganese..

Yes, high amounts of manganese was used in this experiment to deplete thiamine.

THE EFFECTS OF DIETARY MANGANESE AND THIAMINE LEVELS ON GROWTH RATE AND MANGANESE CONCENTRATION IN TISSUES OF R A T S

 

[Andy316]

Does Manganese inhibit copper?

 

[cs3000]

Does Manganese inhibit copper?

manganese should increase copper in brain (at least in extracellular fluid) does at least in mice (but didnt in hippocampus) (in this study increased copper in blood too but in another it lowered)

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4064014/

1 part of it maybe through decreasing metallothionein (binds copper, excessively in zinc overload). and inhibiting ATP7a so less export from cells + more crossing blood brain barrier
didnt happen in OPs case though for hair,
maybe extremes of low copper in diet so enhancement didnt make much difference
or could be it decreases in other tissues Serum ceruloplasmin in manganese-treated rats - PubMed here it went down in blood and up in brain

idk if its actually a functional increase or not. apparently manganese increases iron too but its associated with anemia so Blood manganese concentration is elevated in infants with iron deficiency - PubMed (when iron gets restored manganese goes down. manganese up in low iron state. is body increasing manganese absorption to help increase iron? is high manganese functionally inhibiting iron or no?)

 

[Bozidar]

My manganese on the blood test last year was way above the upper limit.
I was always wondering what is that about?
I never found an answer.
I think I have never been exposed to any extreme levels of manganese.
Who knows...
Just wanted to share...

 

[Andy316]

@cs3000 Thanks mate. Is there a relation between manganese and fructose? I read fructose helps with cholesterol synthesis, and manganese does this too?

 

[youngsinatra]

Manganese builds up when someone has a stagnant bile flow, similar to copper.