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alright , are there some ways/signs to know if the female have high progesterone ?high serotonin response
femininity is a resilt of high neoteny and low masculinization.
Masculinization is a result of high growth hormone and androgenization.
Men are, on average, larger and manlier than women.
Female facial beauty has been found to correlate linearly with oestrogen levels. High estrogens stunt bone growth, leading to more feminine/childlike facial features.
Female with high cortisol were found to have more androgenic fat deposits. i.e. thick waist, big belly, stocky upper body with relatively thin legs.
Estrogen is a feminizing hormone. I suppose estrogen in good ratio with progesterone would combone the feminizing effect while limiting the harmful effects.
Serum levels of FSH, LH, estradiol and progesterone were decreased in all cases to levels incompatible with ovulation.
Luteal phase progesterone levels were significantly lower in 10 and 7 cycles, respectively.
However, hormonal contraceptives do also lead to a reduction of endogenous estradiol and progesterone levels (e.g., Sahlberg et al., 1987).
In the presence of high levels of progesterone, testosterone-actions are impaired, because progesterone has a high affinity for the enzyme 5α-reductase, which is responsible for the conversion of testosterone into the physiologically more active dihydrotestosterone (Wright et al., 1983). If progesterone levels are reduced, more testosterone can be converted to dihydrotestosterone. Thus, any hormonal contraceptives, irrespective of the progestin component, may facilitate testosterone actions on the brain, thereby masculinizing brain structure, function and behavior.
@smith What is a non-inflammatory HA? Could you give an example of a brand?This thing still on? @cyclops,
Increasing subcutaneous fat, and maintaining its distribution to the face and ratio over visceral fat is pretty paramount for increasing femininity, at least in terms of appearance. Subcutaneous, rather than visceral fat, is what's behind the soft, plump and young appearance we often associate with femininity, and especially youth itself; it's one of the greatest indicators of both. Whereas men have a biological tendency towards flat, gaunt, or otherwise 'chiseled' faces like you said, due to the different fat distribution.
Additionally, increasing cellular water content by taking a non-inflammatory molecular weight Hyaluronic Acid(1mil daltons) is a really quick fix for noticeably fuller cheeks because it's already produced endogenously, but usually in much smaller amounts. Combine this with maybe chicken sternal collagen or L-Proline, Sulfur, and Vitamin C for the collagen, and you have a pretty good head start at more femininity IMO. And progesterone of course, shout out to the recommenders.
I think that the use of birth control pills is the main cause of the masculinization of modern women.
See this :
Effect of oral contraceptive (ethinyl estradiol and d-norgestrel) on serum prolactin-oestradiol and progesterone levels. - PubMed - NCBI
After discontinuation :
LH, FSH, estradiol and progesterone levels after discontinuation of hormonal contraception. - PubMed - NCBI
50 years of hormonal contraception—time to find out, what it does to our brain
big **** small upper bodyThanks for your detailed post Integra. Very interesting.
I find it very beautiful when a woman has fuller cheeks for instance. Not fat, but the opposite of a manly, rugged, chiseled face. Also vibrant skin. Maybe a "soft-looking" is a good way to put it, as opposed to a more "hard-looking" man.
so taking estrogn and progesterone increase manlybess? u high? Females bodies are alot more feminine nowadays then 1000 years ago when we had better enviroment. One of my girlfriends became feminine asfuck when she went on bc. She became aggressive and stupid but also way more feminine. Her hips grew, shoulders stopped growing and her **** grew.Interesting experiment we're doing with women. Thankfully my wife never took BC. I don't think my sister or mom ever did either.
so taking estrogn and progesterone increase manlybess? u high? Females bodies are alot more feminine nowadays then 1000 years ago when we had better enviroment. One of my girlfriends became feminine asfuck when she went on bc. She became aggressive and stupid but also way more feminine. Her hips grew, shoulders stopped growing and her **** grew.
Pretty much. Sexual dimorphism is expensive.Same as for men. Provide them a healthy, stimulating, happy, free, nourishing and loving environment when growing up.
EmotionlessnessAs far as I can tell, Ray has not described any symptoms of Progesterone dominance. How would one recognize it?
If this is based on personal experience, did you have progesterone dominance naturally? when I take a lot of progesterone I get too emotional but that's not the same as it occuring without supplementationEmotionlessness
I had been on the pill for about 20+ years (mostly due to severe period pain) and then I had to stop it due to thrombosis. Then I realized I was menopausal, the pill suppressed my ovaries. On top of that, 4 different doctors prescribed me transdermal progesterone due to Hashimoto's without checking my blood estradiol levels... I have been battling with non-detectable estradiol levels and read this forum to do the opposite of the recommendations lolIf this is based on personal experience, did you have progesterone dominance naturally? when I take a lot of progesterone I get too emotional but that's not the same as it occuring without supplementation
blood or tissue levels of estradiol?I had been on the pill for about 20+ years (mostly due to severe period pain) and then I had to stop it due to thrombosis. Then I realized I was menopausal, the pill suppressed my ovaries. On top of that, 4 different doctors prescribed me transdermal progesterone due to Hashimoto's without checking my blood estradiol levels... I have been battling with non-detectable estradiol levels and read this forum to do the opposite of the recommendations lol
Jokes apart, I find many interesting discussions here, but the "estrogen denialism" is kinda disappointing.
The results of a blood test reflect very accurately what I observe in my body.blood or tissue levels of estradiol?