How Much Testosterone Is Contained In Beef Heart And Milk? Does Heat Destroy Or Increase Absorption?

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  1. Cameron

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    Organ meat intake was related to higher total sperm count, higher sperm concentration and greater sperm motility. Compared with non-consumers, men who reported consuming organ meats had 53% (34% to 66%) higher total sperm count, 41% (20% to 56%) higher sperm concentration, and 8 (4 to 12) percentage units higher progressive motility after adjusting for potential confounders. We examined whether nutrients concentrated in organ meats explained these associations. Further adjustment for intakes of animal protein, animal fat, cholesterol, copper, manganese, iron or vitamin B12, alone or in combination, did not affect the association of organ meat intake with semen parameters (data not shown). Intakes of poultry or fish were not related to any of the semen quality parameters examined.
     
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    Meat intake and reproductive parameters among young men processed meat lower sperm counts. Organ meats (real food) higher sperm count. How much testosterone can we get from eating heart, muscle meat, and testicle taking into consideration cooking and how many mgs of testosterone per ounce of beef or chicken organs? @haidut
     
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    Maybe it is not so much the testosterone contained in the organs and glandular's. I think the nutrients, enzymes, and their co-factors are incredible nutrition for the body and allow it to run optimally to make testosterone along with other hormones and such.
     
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    so lamb balls contain testosterone :lol:?
     
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    yes actual testosterone can be found in milk organ meat especially heart and testes.
     
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    Very true I am curious to see a paper on concentrations of hormones as heart has a high concentration of actual testosterone and other androgens but my question is how much can be digested and used by the body.
     
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    I recently ate some fresh beef heart from a cow my brother raised. I don’t know about testosterone, but it definitely increased a sense of well being much more than store bought muscle meat. Not sure how much of that is due to being fresh and not aged or the unique nutrients in the heart. Also had fresh stewed beef tongue that same weekend.

    Freshly slaughtered pasture raised beef whether organs or muscle is an amazing food.
     
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    Even though heart is still a muscle, it has at least 2-3x more of most micronutrients then a steak. I wouldnt be surprised if the heart had a higher concentration of antioxidants though I dont have any studies or data on that.
     
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    Agreed.
     
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    This thread has gotten me thinking about the importance of organ meats. Ironically, in the past couple of weeks I literally swapped out muscle meats for organ meats and shellfish. I feel a lot better as a result. Eating about 4oz of liver a day, oysters several times a week. I eat heart now and then when I can get it from the local Amish farmer. Probably won't do this long-term (Eating a ton of organs), but I think it's important to recognize that organ meats have a variety of benefits over muscle meats.

    I initially had the idea of eating organ meats because my blood tests showed severe copper deficiency with concomitant low ceruloplasmin. Muscle meats are deficient in copper relative to iron, so if someone eats a lot of muscle meats without organs to balance it out, he will shift the balance to high iron/low copper. Copper is needed for the central nervous system, dopamine production, and thus eating copper-rich foods shifts the metabolism towards pro-dopamine, lower prolactin, higher androgens. The hyperbolic focus on zinc intake and zinc deficiency has been much to the detriment of many men. The reality is zinc is easy to obtain from diet and eating an oyster here and there or enough meat weekly will give one all the zinc he needs.

    I think Ray's recommendation of eating about 4-8 oz of liver a week is a good general guideline, but many people who have not been eating well for a long time may nee much more than that for at least a period of time. The curative effects of eating liver cannot be overstated. I had unresolved dermatitis on my scalp for a long time that high doses of vitamin A did not resolve. Eating liver worked it out pretty quickly. Peat and Masterjohn have discussed EFA "deficient" rats who resolved dermatitis simply by eating liver. I'm probably going to eat about 1lb of liver a week for a few months. When someone is experiencing signs of deficiency, IMO there's nothing better to resolve it than liver. For me, my dermatitis could have been due to insufficient B6, biotin, vitamin A, or other b vitamins. I was tired of experimenting with different supplements to reverse it and just decided to not leave it to chance, and eat the real thing.
     
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    I always feel great after eating liver, which I assume is from the mass dose of bioavailable nutrients and vitamin a especially. The body can absorb what it needs and when, which is comparatively different to taking isolated supplements (ie a b complex)
     
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    The other study showed INVERSE relationship between organ meat intake and sperm motility. Very confusing but these studies with humans and surveys are really not all that helpful. I am more of a believer in animal studies because they don’t fill out surveys and they don’t forget or lie and they don’t have hidden confounders.
     
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