FitnessMike
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Seems that i found the reason why i do not tolerate thyroid meds.
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but did you essentially managed to lower it to the point where you alleviate most of the hypo symptoms?Apparently getting a better T4 to T3 ratio will stop this, or just taking T3 standalone.
I'm like you, I don't tolerate thyroid well at all. It gives me bad insomnia. Insomnia that lasts for days even after I stop it.
I just try to eat a good diet, keep my gut disinfected, and watch my serotonin and lactate levels. Basically try to mitigate the most detrimental problems of being hypo. It works well, probably would work even better if I had the luck of living in higher elevation, which I do not.
This is my recent blood cortisol profile results:What are your free T4, free T3 and TSH? Usual culprits for high rT3 are liver, chronic dieting/undereating, and stress. How does your cortisol look?
Stress is probably the culprit, my insomnia is slightly better now with aspirin, definitely not undereating :)What are your free T4, free T3 and TSH? Usual culprits for high rT3 are liver, chronic dieting/undereating, and stress. How does your cortisol look?
Yes. If you can keep the intestine clean and keep FAO to a minimum, you can negate most of these downstream consequences of low thyroid.but did you essentially managed to lower it to the point where you alleviate most of the hypo symptoms?
I understand I need to lower stress as much as i can, but supplementing t3 only causing raise in both t3 and t4 and eventually overload and super high adrenaline.
I'm definitely hypo not hyper, i stopped supplementing any thyroid around 2 months ago, i think by using all this cortisol support I elevated RT3 even higher and i never managed to lower thyroid hormones, antibodies got elevated ever since i started supplementing thyroid, hope they will drop when my thyroid hormones come back to where it suppose to be without supplementation.Yes. If you can keep the intestine clean and keep FAO to a minimum, you can negate most of these downstream consequences of low thyroid.
Judging by your lab report it looks like your issue is perhaps hyper, not hypo. Your TSH is only .005mIU, and your antibodies are elevated. I would just stop taking the thyroid until this straightens out. The high iron could be causing complications as well.
can you share steps that you take to achieve that?I just try to eat a good diet, keep my gut disinfected, and watch my serotonin and lactate levels. Basically try to mitigate the most detrimental problems of being hypo. It works well,
Trial and error mostly.can you share steps that you take to achieve that?
i got myself into hypo partly because of fastingI should also add, even though it's not peaty, I've had good results reducing endotoxin via fasting. But I think this should be a last ditch effort.
That is not a uncommon feature of fasting, you're basically pushing the "gas pedal" on fatty acid oxidation. I think it's a benefit/risk analysis that every individual needs to address.i got myself into hypo partly because of fasting
That is not a uncommon feature of fasting, you're basically pushing the "gas pedal" on fatty acid oxidation. I think it's a benefit/risk analysis that every individual needs to address.
A couple days of controlled hypo from food avoidance is probably much better than being stuck in hypo for the rest for your life due to bacterial endotoxin. Endotoxin is the central driver of hepatic dysfunction, which keeps you stuck in a state of excess lipolysis and lower T3.
Of course, one is a controlled environment, it lasts for 3-5 days and can be stopped at any point just by ingesting some sugar. The other can last for your entire life if you don't correct the issue.so you're saying that some becoming hypo because of endotoxin, and it's way more severe than hypo induced from fasting?
Hi, do you remember what sort of ratio of t4:t3 worked to drop rt3?I've found that some types of thyroid don't work. When I started using it in the 90s, Armour worked really well for me, but the company was sold a few times and the formula changed. For a while WP Thyroid worked, but they changed the formula and it stopped working. In the past years, I've taken Ray's advice to use Cynoplus and Cynomel.
Whenever my rT3 gets too high, I emphasize T3 and lower my T4. So, I emphasize Cynomel (T3) and reduce my Cynoplus (T3/T4). I do some other things too, but don't remember at the moment. I think raising the T3 and lowering T4 seems to work for most people. Some people use T3 only until the rT3 tests better.
No, sorry, but we do reduce the T3/T4 form of thyroid we take, and then use bits of T3 (Cynomel) during the day. We use about 1 to 1 1/2 Cynomel tabs a day until our next labs are done. We gage how we are doing during this time and reduce the Cynomel amount if it seems appropriate.Hi, do you remember what sort of ratio of t4:t3 worked to drop rt3?
Do you eat a lot of meat, oysters and/or "fortified" foods?This is my recent blood cortisol profile results:
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this is my recent saliva cortisol results, few months ago looked better but still suboptimal from afternoon, i suspect this one might be worse because i used adrenal cortex/liquorice to support stress response and the day i did test i didint take anything, not sure.
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This is my recent thyroid profile, i struggled for few weeks to drop my accumulated hormones from previous supplementation, also i dropped recently my cortisol support as i suspect it was further increase rt3 and hormones even grew since previous test 2 weeks ago.
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no not really, its low now, coffee and milk reduce iron big time and its on lower-end now lolDo you eat a lot of meat, oysters and/or "fortified" foods?
The saturation % is really high and can be a sign of significant stress.