How China Beats The West At Capitalism

[ToLive_IsToFly]

I am confused by your position of control vs money. as if they are separate issues, rather than extremely interdependent. The money problem is incredibly important... it is what gives venom to the system of control. Maybe you are blackpilled

Those in power have attempted to make the money problem extremely obscure, and impenetrable. However due to years of diligence it has been revealed ( admitted ) by the Banking System that it is Private Banks which control the expansion and flow of money supply ( see link below ). This is not minor problem it is a foundational problem. And while nationalizing the money supply could lead to a problem of Government misuse, the difference is people would actually be aware of what is going on. The track record of Sovereign Government money is much better than Government-sanctioned Private Money ( current system ).. As far back as 1844 the UK ( Bank Charter Act ) had to stop Private Banks from issuing Bank notes because they were causing crises and manipulation of the asset prices.

Monetary System Analysis — sovereign money

The problem is Private Control of the Money Supply ( Government Sanctioned ) and Usury... The issuance of loans to make money from money, rather than loaning for the needs of the productive economy ( with the ability to forgive loans under proper circumstances ). If Money was representative of Creative, Intellectual and Physical work, there would be a complete transmutation of Ideals in Society.

It seems that you are still stuck at the first step of waking up. Though important, exposure of the fractional reserve banking system is what is called a limited hangout in intelligence circles. The rabbit hole goes far deeper than the Rothschild bogeyman and the creature from Jekyll Island.

Every high school kid with half a brain can learn about the evils of the federal reserve in under an hour. Do you really think that the PTB could retain control for so long if that was all there is to this? Do you really think that they don’t have layers and layers of fall guys and scapegoats to shield them from exposure? The real power structure is hidden far deeper than what anyone could learn from a few youtube videos.

FWIW I would lose the Nazi avatar. They too were no more than controlled opposition. Order out of chaos is the PTB's guiding principal. Remember Hitler also called for a New Order.

As for being blackpilled, I think you are projecting that on me. I am the one saying that we are lucky to live in the most free country in history and should make the most of it regardless of what the elite have planned.

 

[michael94]

Every high school kid with half a brain can learn about the evils of the federal reserve in under an hour.

That is true, but they don't. And it is not commonly taught how the system actually works currently, when it could easily be done. And it would be so clear that you could explain it to someone without any mention of the Central Bank history, and the conspiracies associated. That could be further discussion, if one was so inclined to discover the origins.

Do you really think that they don’t have layers and layers of fall guys and scapegoats to shield them from exposure? The real power structure is hidden far deeper than what anyone could learn from a few youtube videos.

Almost all citizens operate under the assumption that Banks lend out their own money, or at worst lend out the money of their depositors ( neither of which are true ). Many citizens would agree that Banks shouldn't be bailed out, or that Banks have underhanded business tactics, but almost no one will tell you that Banks lead the creation of the money on which they operate. When Banks make a loan it is new money... they then obtain Reserves ( technical term for Central Bank Money ) if they need it from other Banks or the Central Bank. Banks have an account with the Fed just like Non-Banks have accounts with Banks. The Reserve requirement was around 3% in the Eurozone and 10% in America prior to March 26 of this year. I know this is not news to you but to most of the population it is. The Flow of money begins with a private bank loan, and the Central Bank then accomodates it ( if needed ) with Reserves.. which is then sanctioned by the Treasury. Most of this new money goes into Real Estate and Speculation.

This is not attacking "fall guys".. this is attacking a very real and tangible way in which honest citizens are strangled economically.

edit: Another point worth mentioning. Banks if they were allowed to fail would lead to the disappearance of all savings with that Bank, perhaps then be recovered in part later as part of a Bankruptcy settlement. Why? Because the money the Bank says you have is just a demand on the Bank. If the Bank then goes under due to a liquidity crisis then you are screwed. Yet people repeat the line about how we shouldnt have bailed out the banks, proving a widespread misunderstanding of modern money. FDIC insurance has not been tried in such a large scale.

 

[gaze]

@michael94

what are your thoughts then on a national digital coin?

Why the Fed Is Considering a Digital Dollar | WSJ - YouTube

 

[rei]

China makes thousands of millionaires, USA makes few billionaires. West wants to eradicate the middle class as they are harder to control than in china, where they pose no threat.

 

[gaze]

China makes thousands of millionaires, USA makes few billionaires. West wants to eradicate the middle class as they are harder to control than in china, where they pose no threat.

also chinese home ownership rates are at around 90%, while the US is near 60% last I checked and continually decreasing. the west is turning into a neo-feudal society.

 

[meatbag]

The Chinese economy was largely de-socialized after the death of Mao by Deng Xiaoping. Anyone interested in this should check out Michel Chossudovsky's book "Towards Capitalist Restoration" : China: Towards Capitalist Restoration. Michel Chossudovsky - Global Research

Also Joseph Ball's article "Did Mao Really Kill Millions in the Great Leap Forward?" -Monthly Review | Did Mao Really Kill Millions in the Great Leap Forward?

It has some interesting insights on how Deng popularized anti-Mao propaganda while privatizing the Chinese economy while using Marxist language to fool the population about what he was doing:

"The Chinese leadership began its attack on the Great Leap Forward in 1979. Deng moved against Mao supporters directing the official press to attack them.24 This took the form of an ideological campaign against ‘ultraleftism.’ As Meissner, says in his study of the Deng Xiaoping era, “multitudes of scholars and theoreticians were brought forth to expound on the ‘petty bourgeois’ social and ideological roots of the Great Leap Forward and the Cultural Revolution.”

The reason for this vilification of the Great Leap Forward had much to do with post-Mao power struggles and the struggle to roll back the socialist policies of 1949-76. After Mao’s death in 1976 Hua Guofeng had come to power on a platform of “upholding every word and policy made by Mao.” Deng Xiaoping badly needed a political justification for his usurpation of Hua in 1978 and his assumption of leadership. Deng’s stated stance of Mao being “70% right and 30% wrong” was a way of distinguishing his own “pragmatic” approach to history and ideology from his predecessors. (The pro-market policies Deng implemented suggested that he actually believed that Mao was about 80% wrong.)"

 

[tankasnowgod]

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[BrianF]

The Chinese effectively run an economy based on something close to slave Labour. That, among other things, is why they are beating everyone.

Don't buy chinese. And not out of any parochial notion of patriotism. But because fellow humans suffer under this tyranny and whether or not China takes over the west or, more likeky the west increasingly adopts chinese methods to compete, then no good can come from playing nice with the chinese communist party.

 

[Inaut]

A guy I follow on YT has mentioned he thinks the hot Chinese money from the fentanyl/opioid trade is finding a home in Canadian real estate (and other places) driving our markets up and pricing us out.... China is getting money from a lot of different areas so I won’t say it’s just that but.... very interesting take. I’d compare it to the CIA flooding streets with drugs to fund proxy wars and destabilize governments/regions...

 

[Donttreadonme]

China isn't beating anyone at capitalism because china isn't practicing capitalism. The Chinese government is bent on world domination and using everything from theft and patent violation to slave labor.

Bringing china into the mainstream world was a huge mistake by DC that totally blew up in their faces. Considering how much Chinese money flows into DC sewer rats pockets no one even cares anymore.

You have to wonder how many of the millions the biden family is worth is Chinese money.

 

[Peatness]

This is probably a set up for some kind of war

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[Demyze]

@tankasnowgod RP being fairly extreme and having some unreasonable positions (removing starch, is one example) I've noticed there tends to be a bunch of equally unreasonable individuals who are drawn to RP. Hence you get people who probably live better than 90% of the world but complain about it. 9 times out of ten, they're also liberal.

Imagine that

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[Demyze]

China isn't beating anyone at capitalism because china isn't practicing capitalism. The Chinese government is bent on world domination and using everything from theft and patent violation to slave labor.

Bringing china into the mainstream world was a huge mistake by DC that totally blew up in their faces. Considering how much Chinese money flows into DC sewer rats pockets no one even cares anymore.

You have to wonder how many of the millions the biden family is worth is Chinese money.

The US economy wouldn't exist without constantly murdering people overseas justified with false flag operations, foreign slave labor, the prison industrial complex, the military industrial complex, and the pharmaceutical mafia

Do you have any idea how much of your tax dollars are spent funding radical and fascists factions overseas?

Capitalism is the enforcement of class dominance and its monopolies, enclosure, and militarism through the violence and repression of the state