High T3 May Induce Insulin Resistance And High Blood Sugar

Discussion in 'Ask For Help or Advice' started by ddjd, Dec 4, 2017.

  1. ddjd

    ddjd Member

    Jul 13, 2014
    "The T3-only protocol and/or high doses of desiccated thyroid can cause high blood sugar, which causes A1C to rise to levels that warrant treatment. Thyroid levels, both too high or too low, have a direct impact on blood glucose. High doses of T3 have induced severe insulin resistance and type 2 diabetes in some patients, who are now on drugs like Metformin to control the condition.

    High T3 levels stimulate the liver to produce excess glucose and the pancreas to produce excess insulin. This causes high blood glucose and insulin resistance. [8]

    A comparison between the T3/rT3 ratios of insulin resistant and insulin sensitive subjects found a significantly higher T3/rT3 ratio in insulin resistant subjects. [9] Since a high ratio is actually the goal of the T3-only protocol, the protocol itself may induce insulin resistance as a side effect in some people.

    A suppressed TSH is also expected on the T3-only protocol or on desiccated thyroid, but a low TSH has been shown to correlate to insulin resistance, higher insulin levels, and lower insulin sensitivity. This positive correlation holds even when Free T4 and T3 are within the reference range. In short, as T3 rises, so does insulin resistance. [10]"
  2. dookie

    dookie Member

    May 5, 2015
  3. Kartoffel

    Kartoffel Member

    Sep 29, 2017
    It would be nice, if we could see the references behind those numbers...
  4. jitsmonkey

    jitsmonkey Member

    Jul 8, 2015
    This notion is completely false
    this is a function of being underfueled and adrenaline being high
    So either
    a) the dose is WAY too high and you can't fuel the dose and you're creating stress and thus increasing adrenaline production
    b) the dose is fine and you're just not eating enough and you're creating stress and thus increasing adrenaline production

    context always matters
    T3 does not cause those things.
    The stress of too much T3 relative to ability to fuel the amount does.

    The symptoms listed are identical to any other high adrenaline high stress scenario.
  5. jitsmonkey

    jitsmonkey Member

    Jul 8, 2015
    this is the study
    The association of insulin resistance with subclinical thyrotoxicosis. - PubMed - NCBI

    the study doesn't control for ANYTHING other than the drugs and single meal administered
    this is nonsense. I wonder what happens if we give metabolically dysfunctional people
    living the avg dysfunctional life, eating the avg amount of PUFA significant amounts
    of powerful metabolic stimulants? Yeah... exactly... bad ***t happens.

    I actually took a couple of minutes to read the blog post using this reference
    High Blood Sugar & Insulin Resistance Correlate with High T3
    this person is simply using this position to justify why you should consult THEM
    to handle your thyroid dosage. Its a careful narrative with cherry picked studies
    to make the blog post point and box the reader in up against the rest of the blog narrative
    which is pro-thyroid supplementation. Its just careful marketing to an ignorant audience.

    Bottom line.... metabolic stimulants without fuel is bad news.
    High stress/Adrenaline is bad news
    Nothing new to see here