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Here's a social experiment for guys out there. Go to the park/to church/ to the club here in America and see how many women you attract.

Then go to the same type of location in South America and see how many women are interested in you.

If you don't feel like going thru such an extensive experiment [hey, I don't blame you!], then get on Tinder and browse around in both locations. See how many matches and messages you get in one location vs. the other.

You'll quickly realize that something is severely off about gender dynamics in North America, and one sex is more in the wrong than the other...
You have conducted such an experiment and got more real life approaches and interest in south america?
 

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You have conducted such an experiment and got more real life approaches and interest in south america?
road trip all over north/south america america and europe to meet women
 

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road trip all over north/south america america and europe to meet women
If guys here are doubting the problem with Western gender dynamics,

then this is what I'm actually recommending:

"If you don't feel like going thru such an extensive experiment [hey, I don't blame you!], then get on Tinder and browse around in both locations. See how many matches and messages you get in one location vs. the other."

Looking back this context prob wasn't made clear enough.
 

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If guys here are doubting the problem with Western gender dynamics,

then this is what I'm actually recommending:

"If you don't feel like going thru such an extensive experiment [hey, I don't blame you!], then get on Tinder and browse around in both locations. See how many matches and messages you get in one location vs. the other."

Looking back this context prob wasn't made clear enough.
no iam just trolling you,only love,0 hate
 

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white north american guys doing well in south america would be mostly about white features being worshiped in colonised third world countries and a white partner being seen as affluent and a potential way out of poverty. Its not about different gender dynamics, it's about taking advantage of the self loathing/white fetishism of some mixed people and their desire to raise their offspring in a financially stable family/developed country
 

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white north american guys doing well in south america would be mostly about white features being worshiped in colonised third world countries and a white partner being seen as affluent and a potential way out of poverty. Its not about different gender dynamics, it's about taking advantage of the self loathing/white fetishism of some mixed people and their desire to raise their offspring in a financially stable family/developed country
IMO it's about both factors, different gender dynamics and the perceived affluence.
 

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Disclaimer: All of the following statements are generalizations that approximate reality over time on the balance of probability.

Check out My Secret Garden by Nancy Friday; women love and worship the masculine. The penis specifically and symbolically, with images of vessels being filled featuring heavily in conscious and subconscious female sexual (life) fantasies. There is no intrinsic compartmentalization of sex and non-sex; the duality and unification of sex is life and pervades life's vicissitudes. An important erotic tool is to understand the utility of ritualistic compartmentalization of sex and non-sex which answers the female sexual prerogative; this is what is occurring when a man is attractive in proportion to how aloof he is and unattractive in proportion to neediness.
In summary, because women are very attracted, it is easy to attract them when you work with the natural flow of erotic energy, or simply embody the symbols of female fascination.
 
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No offense to all the guys, but it just seems that you guys like to ask each other what is attractive to females, yet, when a female tells you honestly what is attractive to them, you reject the advice, like we don’t know what we are talking about. I kinda wish more women, more than just moi, would jump in on these threads and get some dialogue going. Real dialogue is healthy. And productive. That’s what first drew me to the forum. Exchange of ideas.
But the thread needs a bit of balance of both female and male opinions. Sometimes.

And like I said, why not ask women what women like? Do you think we don’t know what we like?

And someone mentioned Elvis….I can’t speak for all women, but I don’t find Elvis attractive at all. And I don’t think many women find Elvis all that attractive either.

And super buldging muscles are not where it’s at either.
 
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Disclaimer: All of the following statements are generalizations that approximate reality over time on the balance of probability.

Check out My Secret Garden by Nancy Friday; women love and worship the masculine. The penis specifically and symbolically, with images of vessels being filled featuring heavily in conscious and subconscious female sexual (life) fantasies. There is no intrinsic compartmentalization of sex and non-sex; the duality and unification of sex is life and pervades life's vicissitudes. An important erotic tool is to understand the utility of ritualistic compartmentalization of sex and non-sex which answers the female sexual prerogative; this is what is occurring when a man is attractive in proportion to how aloof he is and unattractive in proportion to neediness.
In summary, because women are very attracted, it is easy to attract them when you work with the natural flow of erotic energy, or simply embody the symbols of female fascination.
Yes, that’s true. But conversely men like breasts. And vaginas. It’s about compliments. And about opposites. A penis compliments a vagina. They fit nicely together ;)
 
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Absolutely, metabolism and life are deeply intertwined and yes, there is certainly some relationship between metabolism and attraction.
 

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No offense to all the guys, but it just seems that you guys like to ask each other what is attractive to females, yet, when a female tells you honestly what is attractive to them, you reject the advice, like we don’t know what we are talking about. I kinda wish more women, more than just moi, would jump in on these threads and get some dialogue going. Real dialogue is healthy. And productive. That’s what first drew me to the forum. Exchange of ideas.
But the thread needs a bit of balance of both female and male opinions. Sometimes.

And like I said, why not ask women what women like? Do you think we don’t know what we like?

And someone mentioned Elvis….I can’t speak for all women, but I don’t find Elvis attractive at all. And I don’t think many women find Elvis all that attractive either.

And super buldging muscles are not where it’s at either.
Thank you for the frank contribution. Without referring to anything specific in this thread, I agree that men's discussion of these things is often as you describe, and often due to immaturity of thought. It is also the case that (again, generalizing on the balance of probability) that women's sexuality has been so historically repressed and pathologized that deep and protracted scars remain in the general consciousness. As a result some people (men and women) have at times experienced a disconnect, or apparent disconnect, between what women say they want and what women appear to actively pursue. To be fair, much the same is true of men, if not in matters of sex than in some more integrated areas of a man's life. That said I agree with your overall statement. Indeed, my recommendation of Nancy Friday's book is momentum in precisely that direction; ask women what they want.
 

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No offense to all the guys, but it just seems that you guys like to ask each other what is attractive to females, yet, when a female tells you honestly what is attractive to them, you reject the advice, like we don’t know what we are talking about. I kinda wish more women, more than just moi, would jump in on these threads and get some dialogue going. Real dialogue is healthy. And productive. That’s what first drew me to the forum. Exchange of ideas.
But the thread needs a bit of balance of both female and male opinions. Sometimes.

And like I said, why not ask women what women like? Do you think we don’t know what we like?

And someone mentioned Elvis….I can’t speak for all women, but I don’t find Elvis attractive at all. And I don’t think many women find Elvis all that attractive either.

And super buldging muscles are not where it’s at either.


it's because the majority of men ranting about the male power fantasy called "chad" on the internet:

- have endocrine disturbances, pornography addictions and are socially isolated, resulting in sky high unrealistic standards of female attractiveness due to a lower sex drive and a view of women that is not based on real life experience. Hence when they talk about women they only talk about extremely attractive women of a narrow phenotype that put themselves out there on social media. women of different phenotypes, attractiveness level and with low online presence are not on their radar.

-said men are only interested in interaction with the opposite sex with the end goal of having sex with the aforementioned group of women

- they are only interested in non-committal pump and dump type of sex with the aforementioned group of women

- are preoccupied with their male circle's validation of their sexual conquest's attractiveness and using attractive women as a status symbol. The approval of their male friends comes second only to their own sexual gratification.

- they project their superficial mating strategy onto women, hence the birth of the concept of "Chad"- a male that women chase and validate entirely based off of appearance and seek short term sexual encounters with.

- The reality is the vast majority of women value commitment, stability and familiarity while the majority of young men seek one night stands and novelty.

- have intense feelings of jealousy and resentment towards the phantasmic "Chad" borne out of the desire to be treated the way their shallow selves treat those top attractiveness women- letting them get away with having poor behaviour, choices and personalities


- have a madonna whore complex- they'd like to have women throw themselves at them and have sex with them within a short time of knowing them. But they also demand chaste women that are either virginal or with a low body count and would only make an exception for THEM. Leading me to another aspect of the Chad fantasy: they want to spend their life contributing to lost virginities and body counts and then settle down in their forties with a late teen/early twenties virgin.
 
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Thank you for the frank contribution. Without referring to anything specific in this thread, I agree that men's discussion of these things is often as you describe, and often due to immaturity of thought. It is also the case that (again, generalizing on the balance of probability) that women's sexuality has been so historically repressed and pathologized that deep and protracted scars remain in the general consciousness. As a result some people (men and women) have at times experienced a disconnect, or apparent disconnect, between what women say they want and what women appear to actively pursue. To be fair, much the same is true of men, if not in matters of sex than in some more integrated areas of a man's life. That said I agree with your overall statement. Indeed, my recommendation of Nancy Friday's book is momentum in precisely that direction; ask women what they want.
And I agree very much with what you wrote. Cheers ? :joyful: There certainly has been a disconnect. I do think a lot has to do, as you mentioned, with immaturity. Immaturity of thought. Small minds breed small, unenlightened thoughts. Immature thoughts.
 

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Do you think we don’t know what we like?
I would say this is the case, in a sense. I am yet to meet a woman who deals with quantifiable phenomena when it comes to the matters of the heart. To a woman, everything is a feeling. Height is a feeling. Personality is a feeling. Intelligence is a feeling. Bank balance is a feeling. When a woman says that she likes a man who is funny, she is saying that she likes the feeling that she associates with a man being funny. She is, therefore, not saying that one needs to be funny (as us men would quantify it) in order to be attractive to her, but rather, she is saying that one needs to be able to evoke a specific feeling in her, the one which she has for one reason or another come to associate with funniness. The good news (for men) is that there are millions of ways to evoke in her the feeling in question. Being good looking could evoke it! Being rich could evoke it! Being intelligent could evoke it! Being popular could evoke it! And so on, and so on. We have thus laid the foundation to the cliché of women saying one thing and meaning another.

It is true that a woman does not know what she wants insofar as objectively quantifying any external phenomenon goes. While the woman no doubt is in full awareness of the specific feeling she is after, to an outsider (especially to a man), her pursuit for this feeling will seem to be devoid of any logic. Hence, yes, the inexperienced man, not comprehending the experiential gap between the two sexes, will be led to believe that women really do have no idea what they like.
 
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“they project their superficial mating strategy onto women, hence the birth of the concept of "Chad"- a male that women chase and validate entirely based off of appearance and seek short term sexual encounters with.”

Yes, and most women really don’t need nor desire a Chad…because a Chad is relative. What one woman may call a Chad may not be what another woman calls a Chad. There are no absolutes. For example, a lot of men thing Brad Pitt is a Chad. But IMO, while I think Brad is nice, he doesn’t do it for me. Maybe because he is blond and I am blond. I like darker haired look.

But someone say, like Steve Carell, whom some might call potentially nerdy, is actually attractive to me. Maybe because he’s funny.
 
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I would say this is the case, in a sense. I am yet to meet a woman who deals with quantifiable phenomena when it comes to the matters of the heart. To a woman, everything is a feeling. Height is a feeling. Personality is a feeling. Intelligence is a feeling. Bank balance is a feeling. When a woman says that she likes a man who is funny, she is saying that she likes the feeling that she associates with a man being funny. She is, therefore, not saying that one needs to be funny (as us men would quantify it) in order to be attractive to her, but rather, she is saying that one needs to be able to evoke a specific feeling in her, the one which she has for one reason or another come to associate with funniness. The good news (for men) is that there are millions of ways to evoke in her the feeling in question. Being good looking could evoke it! Being rich could evoke it! Being intelligent could evoke it! Being popular could evoke it! And so on, and so on. Thus we have built the foundation to the cliché of women saying one thing and meaning another.

It is thus true that a woman does not know what she wants insofar as objectively quantifying any external phenomenon goes. While the woman no doubt is in full awareness of the specific feeling she is after, to an outsider (especially to a man), her pursuit for this feeling will seem to be devoid of any logic. Hence, yes, the inexperienced man, not comprehending the experiential gap between the two sexes, will be led to believe that women really do have no idea what they like.
Hmmm….I don’t know about that. Maybe for some women it’s all about feelings. I get what you’re saying, that feelings potentially skew their perspective, but I don’t think what you’re saying goes for *all* women.

i just mentioned “funny” in another comment…I like funny because I myself see the humorous side of life and like to share that with similar likeminded people. Not anymore complicated than that.
 

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Hmmm….I don’t know about that. Maybe for some women it’s all about feelings. I get what you’re saying, that feelings potentially skew their perspective, but I don’t think what you’re saying goes for *all* women.

i just mentioned “funny” in another comment…I like funny because I myself see the humorous side of life and like to share that with similar likeminded people. Not anymore complicated than that.
Well, perhaps instead of 'women' I should have used 'the feminine', as in the end, subjectivity is the essence of femininity, and certainly it can be said that some women are more objective than they are subjective.
 
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Well, perhaps instead of 'women' I should have used 'the feminine', as in the end, subjectivity is the essence of femininity, and certainly it can be said that some women are more objective than they are subjective.
That was diplomatic :cat:
 

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