That seems likely to me too.I think everyone probably has a unique optimal macro ratio based on the health of their carb and fat metabolism. And the ratio is probably a moving target based on many factors including activity level and stress.
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That seems likely to me too.I think everyone probably has a unique optimal macro ratio based on the health of their carb and fat metabolism. And the ratio is probably a moving target based on many factors including activity level and stress.
Medium everything in terms of ckal is 33% of fats , proteins and carbs?Instead they do medium everything.
Yes, i know that there is no any "Ray Peat diet" :) And that is why we all try to Percieve, think and actNo need for concern.
Its not the Ray Peat diet
Medium everything in terms of ckal is 33% of fats , proteins and carbs?
Balance is more about balanced metabolism i guess , than about balanced macros. And the question is what is optimal diet for balanced metabolism.
I think that it is really very private thing and depends on one's state of health. If someone only starts with Peat - it is likely to make bad choices for one's metabolism at first (like eating more carbs without eating less fats). Some people complain weight gaining and worsing of insulin resistance at first - so it seems that this article just illustrates what can happen.
Yes, i know that there is no any "Ray Peat diet" :) And that is why we all try to Percieve, think and act
Futhurmore, most modern lab rats have been bred to have even worse reactions to dietary fat than a wild rat, due to the anti-fat propaganda of the last 50 years. The majority of rats used in US labs today are from the same lineage as the rats of the 50s and 60s. These rats havent lived a natural existence in many, many, generations. Lab rats have actually devolved in health over the years, alongside humans. This makes the reaction to an unattural diet even more pronounced.
Alright, but gulping sugar on its own will cause insulin to spike, leading to conversion of sugar to fat. And there are numerous people on here who got fat on very low fat and high sugar. So what now?
Perhaps the whole black and white, extremist thinking, where something always needs to be high, and something always needs to be low, is the problem. Reading many of the threads one would think Peat must be recommending pounds of sugar a day, where in reality his recommendation for optimal daily sugar intake is measly 200 grams. Hardly a high carb!!
When did balance become unhealthy? Perhaps the cartoonish concept, where if little bit of something is good, a lot of it must be even better, is the problem. I know balance sounds like such a lame concept in a world where everyones looking for the magic bullet and if something doesn't sound sufficiently bombastic or extreme, it probably isn't worth trying. But honestly, listening to Peat on various podcasts I often wonder how often the forum strays from what the guy says.
"The very rapid rise of blood sugar stimulates massive release of insulin, and rapidly converts much of the carbohydrate into fat." RP
"A daily diet that includes two quarts of milk and a quart of orange juice provides enough fructose and other sugars for general resistance to stress" RP
What is the rest of your diet like? Any reason to not eat starch?Gonna agree with you hear. Everyone is different. But the second I stopped excess sugars. Life got better. My abbs popped out, anxiety went down, brain fog disappeared, sleep improved. Water retention dropped.
Now my carbs are glass
Orange juice for breakfast and before bed. Whatever's in my 2% milk which is about 1/2 gallon a day, some candy around and during my workout. No need for more.. Fat does the rest.
Rats are not phisiologically equipped to digest appreciable amounts of fat. They have no gall bladder, and a large cecum, basically opposite to humans. They are obligate grain/fiber eaters. Macronutrtional studies in rats, particularly fat studies, are all but irrelevant in regards to humans.
Low carbohydrate intake will not create physiological IR in humans, unless you are dietary glucose deficient.
Futhurmore, most modern lab rats have been bred to have even worse reactions to dietary fat than a wild rat, due to the anti-fat propaganda of the last 50 years. The majority of rats used in US labs today are from the same lineage as the rats of the 50s and 60s. These rats havent lived a natural existence in many, many, generations. Lab rats have actually devolved in health over the years, alongside humans. This makes the reaction to an unattural diet even more pronounced.
Rats I know do well on almonds and avocado is their favorite! They also like meat and eggs, and thrive on fruits, bananas, even oranges, and also love cabbage and beet root... If they attack a pumkin, this is only to get to the seeds, so they LOVE FAT.Rats are not phisiologically equipped to digest appreciable amounts of fat. They have no gall bladder, and a large cecum, basically opposite to humans. They are obligate grain/fiber eaters. Macronutrtional studies in rats, particularly fat studies, are all but irrelevant in regards to humans.
Still a lot of fat, find what Denise Minger says about being high in one or the other but not both.41% carbs (~215g), 33% fat (70g, of wich is 7g of PUFAs)
Make the change in summer!Otherwise if one tries to make smooth transition from Paleo (high fat - low carb) to Peat (higher carb) he or she can accidentally eat a lot of fat and carbs at the same time and make things worse for the one's health.
Then if it is starch, I would believe even more my intuition!The good metabolism and health is the one that can switch and manage both carbs and fat for energy. While I rely best on carbs for most energym I don't do well being on <25-30% calories from fat as I start craving for it badly.
How much fat is enough up to you ?Still a lot of fat, find what Denise Minger says about being high in one or the other but not both.
Why does a Ray Peat forum have a Macros & Micros section LOL
I just view with my cravings... and it depends if I eat fruits or starch!How much fat is enough up to you ?
At the beginning of the summer, I decided to experiment by dropping all liquid fats and upping lean protein by eating low fat cottage cheese and casein and that little bit of stubborn fat I couldn't shake melted away. I won't be going back to cooking with coconut oil ... or any other kind of fat.
None of this even matter really in practice. IR happens when you can no longer store anymore energy (can't get any fatter) or when glucose/protein intake is so low that it's being spared for the heart and brain.
Since the latter is unlikely in a "peat" scenario, if you have IR eating carbs, you're probably too fat.
You don't have to choose fat or carbs, but if you choose both, you have to be concious of calories, because the combination is very stimulating to the reward centers, and it's much easier overconsume energy.
You decreased your caloric intake, and/or increased expenditure from the stimulating effect of protein. Not that you should cook with oils, but your results don't really prove anything.
Lowering bodyfat temporarily is easy, it's maintainng it (I'm talking years) that most people have a problem with.