Help With Hormone Labs. Low T, Low E, Low Prolactin, Low FSH

[DaveFoster]

I've heard accounts of guys getting their testosterone VERY high without steroids by using strong aromatase inhibitors.

RPRA I guess.

Some bodybuilding circles recommend just running an aromatase inhibitor (AI) as a safer alternative to anabolic steroids for a young person.

 

[haidut]

I've heard accounts of guys getting their testosterone VERY high without steroids by using strong aromatase inhibitors.

RPRA I guess.

Yes, when using an AI the T levels will rise because of the lack of conversion of T into E. But without taking ANY chemicals, serum E2 is usually tied to serum T and both are indication of gonadal activity. Same situation happens in women - serum E2 and P4 are indications of ovarian function and when ovaries stop working after menopause both P4 and E2 drop, which leads some doctors to say that menopause is a condition of estrogen deficiency, when in fact tissue E1 (and E2) keep rising and P4 stays low.

 

[Mito]

But without taking ANY chemicals, serum E2 is usually tied to serum T and both are indication of gonadal activity.

When you say chemicals do you include fat solubles such as EstroBan?

 

[haidut]

When you say chemicals do you include fat solubles such as EstroBan?

Usually yes, but in high doses vitamin E does act as an aromatase inhibitor and estrogen antagonist so that has to be kept in mind. A 500mg (or higher) daily dose usually has strong anti-estrogenic and anti-prolactin effect, comparable to a pharma AI like anastrozole or fulvestrant.

 

[Risingfire]

Usually yes, but in high doses vitamin E does act as an aromatase inhibitor and estrogen antagonist so that has to be kept in mind. A 500mg (or higher) daily dose usually has strong anti-estrogenic and anti-prolactin effect, comparable to a pharma AI like anastrozole or fulvestrant.

If I took 30 drops of Tocovit for a month, can I assume this would reduce estrone? Any other steps I should take on this protocol?

 

[Mito]

serum E2 is usually tied to serum T and both are indication of gonadal activity.

Does high SHBG change this? Does it bind to E2 proportionally more than T?

 

[bboone]

I’m not fat, but definitely a little fluff, probably 13-15% bf.

what is up with the severe misconception regarding body fat and visual appearance on this forum? literally nobody except people on bodybuilding forums would call someone who is actually 13 - 15 % body fat "a little fluffy". at 15 %, you would have constantly visible upper abdominals, constantly visible adonis belt, serratus muscles as well as some pectoral vascularity. also, eat more

 

[stevrd]

what is up with the severe misconception regarding body fat and visual appearance on this forum? literally nobody except people on bodybuilding forums would call someone who is actually 13 - 15 % body fat "a little fluffy". at 15 %, you would have constantly visible upper abdominals, constantly visible adonis belt, serratus muscles as well as some pectoral vascularity. also, eat more

Thank you, I came to this realization after much distress trying to maintain a body fat of 10%. I don't feel at my best at sub 10%, or even sub 12%.