johnysummer
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Hi everyone,
first I want to say thanks to everyone in this amazing forum, I have accumulated knowledge I ve never even think I would. Although, this is another hair regrowth stack, I know there are too many by now, the thing is that it seems to work. The stack mainly follows reccomendations by @Elephanto and his hair regrowth protocol, but I have incorporated them as well as I could in my diet while trying to keep some balance.
I am 23 and I lost many hairs from last march since I started working as a software engineer. Up to September when I stopped the job, to proceed with my studies, I noticed big recesion and started to investigate. I ve lost hair in the past (around my 21 yo) and I though back then that was due to creatine, which I consumed in regular basis, as I wanted to improve my performance. I ve been wrestling, non proffesionally, since 15. When I stopped creatine back then most hair regrew back. Anyways this time the damage was good and I was really worried depresed and all that stuff back in this years late August. At around 20 September I became familiar with Ray Peat's work and since I started the investigation things started to make real sense. I was consuming all the shitty stuff (big amounts of almonds, seeds, zero fruit, a lot of meat and all the estrogenic legumes). Then I went for blood tests and guess what, the shityness was confirmed by my blood tests. TSH: 3.74, Testosterone 600, cortisol close to the upper bound. I had blood tests 2 years ago and my T was 800 and TSH around 2 (I was also consuming many PUFA back then but I least I had decent T), so you imagine the shock I was in when I saw them. Anyways the physical symptoms where clear, excesive fatigue, zero tolerance to stress, always nervous etc, so the tests only confirmed what was clear. The good thing was I had some stuff to work on and see if how it goes. I am proceeding with my general diet + lifestyle since October 1. Main goals are 1)Hair regrowth, 2)Energy Gains, 3)Muscle Gains and 4)Big tolerance towards long working hours. I think this can be achieved if high androgens + high dopamine can be achieved.
Nutrition:
Breakfast: 1 or 2 medium slice of bread with butter and marmalade, 2-3 fruits (oranges, bananas, apples), 1-2 eggs, coffe with 10g gelatin powder and sugar (its this or with more fruit without the slices)
After 2 hours coffee with sugar + dark chocolate
Lunch: 4 times meat (beef, chicken without fat or lamp), 1 time liver, 1 time fish, 1 time shellfish with white rice + peas, or potatos. Also a salad either brocoli, carrot, kale or spinach
Afternoon: Fruits, or Milk + Dark chocolate
Dinner: Omelet with mushrooms + Oj (about 500-700ml) + 1 slice bread with honey and butter
Before bed: 60g icecream + Glass of milk
In this I include 3-4 tsps of coconut oil per day and 3-4 tsps of baking soda in water.
This is definately not the diet Elephanto recommends for Hair Regrowth but this is suited for my needs as I train 5 times per week pretty intensively.
Supplements:
Vitmns A, D, K, E. Also Magnesium Citrate, biotin 3-4 times per week. And taurine 1g per day. Sometimes BCAA's before training
I ve been on this diet for 2 and a 1/2 months now. I didnt follow this supplementation from the start as I came to know Elephanto's protocol around the Start of November. Energy wise these stuff work. I mean I dropped from 13% to 11% and grew 1kg in muscle, while trying 2 hours a day 5 times per week. I was really amazed by this as I was pretty developed physically and the muscle gain was a very pleasent surprise. Now about the hair. Guys I know this sounds to good to be true but it is possible. Elephanto definetely knwos his stuff. I mean its only been 2 months and my hair progressed a lot for such a short time. Maybe becaused the damage was made in 4-5 months. Density increased in 2-3 weeks, new very tiny hairs are popping on the hairline and the skin on my forhead seems much more healthy. At September I was kinda Nor 2 - 2.5 and now I am below 2 for sure. I am measuring the space between the eyebrow and my hairline with my fingers. Regrowth is for sure possible, the thing is how you can optimize stuff to get better results without making too many mistakes (some mistakes I think are always necessary to achieve the end goal).
Hair Concerning Habits:
1)Mag citrate at night 1g (as Elephanto suggested)
2)ACV rinse 3 times per week
3)Daily Scalp exercises (massage, pinching)
4)Neck exercises during training (headstand, bridge on head, head spins)
5)Buteyko meditation 2 times per day for 5 minutes (although always focused on breathing very slow and controlled). I think this makes a huge difference.
6)30 minutes a day walking (as Elephanto suggested)
7)Decreased the frequency of masturbation. If you are getting laid dont do this at all. I think they are very different. I dont feel drowsy after intercourse.
Things I have noticed:
1)I quited vit d for 2 weeks as I feared that would cause calcification since I have been supplementing vit d for about 6-7 months without K2. This period my tolerence towards stress deteriorated. I was really tired after training, more anxious etc. So vit D is a big yes for me. I wont quit it again.
2)I introduced every supplement slowly as I wanted to see if I can determine whats works and whats not. I think hairloss reduced significantly just by taking Taurine.
3)K2 seems to make the scalp grow in a more masculine way. Also hair quality seemed to increase after vit K.
4)Mag Citr makes your s**t pretty bad.
5)Most effective hair habits for me are slow breathing and ACV.
This is it guys. Sorry for the long post but I wanted everyone that is going to read it to have the whole picture. Also I want people to know that hair regrowth is possible. I was pretty sceptical myself about it but not anymore. I am feeling a lot more healthy than I used to thanks to this forum. Hair seem to be on a plateau now (for about 2 weeks it looks the same). I am considering adding zinc picolinate and Iodine in the stack. I know Iodine can be dangerous and zinc can imbalance copper. Will I be OK if I supplement 50mg zinc pic and eating 1 time per week liver (concerning copper)? I ve been reading on this forum that zincs benefits and countless and also Elephanto recommends it big time. Also what do you think in general of this supplement stack+nutrition? Do you have any other reccomendations regarding hair ?
Thanks for your time
first I want to say thanks to everyone in this amazing forum, I have accumulated knowledge I ve never even think I would. Although, this is another hair regrowth stack, I know there are too many by now, the thing is that it seems to work. The stack mainly follows reccomendations by @Elephanto and his hair regrowth protocol, but I have incorporated them as well as I could in my diet while trying to keep some balance.
I am 23 and I lost many hairs from last march since I started working as a software engineer. Up to September when I stopped the job, to proceed with my studies, I noticed big recesion and started to investigate. I ve lost hair in the past (around my 21 yo) and I though back then that was due to creatine, which I consumed in regular basis, as I wanted to improve my performance. I ve been wrestling, non proffesionally, since 15. When I stopped creatine back then most hair regrew back. Anyways this time the damage was good and I was really worried depresed and all that stuff back in this years late August. At around 20 September I became familiar with Ray Peat's work and since I started the investigation things started to make real sense. I was consuming all the shitty stuff (big amounts of almonds, seeds, zero fruit, a lot of meat and all the estrogenic legumes). Then I went for blood tests and guess what, the shityness was confirmed by my blood tests. TSH: 3.74, Testosterone 600, cortisol close to the upper bound. I had blood tests 2 years ago and my T was 800 and TSH around 2 (I was also consuming many PUFA back then but I least I had decent T), so you imagine the shock I was in when I saw them. Anyways the physical symptoms where clear, excesive fatigue, zero tolerance to stress, always nervous etc, so the tests only confirmed what was clear. The good thing was I had some stuff to work on and see if how it goes. I am proceeding with my general diet + lifestyle since October 1. Main goals are 1)Hair regrowth, 2)Energy Gains, 3)Muscle Gains and 4)Big tolerance towards long working hours. I think this can be achieved if high androgens + high dopamine can be achieved.
Nutrition:
Breakfast: 1 or 2 medium slice of bread with butter and marmalade, 2-3 fruits (oranges, bananas, apples), 1-2 eggs, coffe with 10g gelatin powder and sugar (its this or with more fruit without the slices)
After 2 hours coffee with sugar + dark chocolate
Lunch: 4 times meat (beef, chicken without fat or lamp), 1 time liver, 1 time fish, 1 time shellfish with white rice + peas, or potatos. Also a salad either brocoli, carrot, kale or spinach
Afternoon: Fruits, or Milk + Dark chocolate
Dinner: Omelet with mushrooms + Oj (about 500-700ml) + 1 slice bread with honey and butter
Before bed: 60g icecream + Glass of milk
In this I include 3-4 tsps of coconut oil per day and 3-4 tsps of baking soda in water.
This is definately not the diet Elephanto recommends for Hair Regrowth but this is suited for my needs as I train 5 times per week pretty intensively.
Supplements:
Vitmns A, D, K, E. Also Magnesium Citrate, biotin 3-4 times per week. And taurine 1g per day. Sometimes BCAA's before training
I ve been on this diet for 2 and a 1/2 months now. I didnt follow this supplementation from the start as I came to know Elephanto's protocol around the Start of November. Energy wise these stuff work. I mean I dropped from 13% to 11% and grew 1kg in muscle, while trying 2 hours a day 5 times per week. I was really amazed by this as I was pretty developed physically and the muscle gain was a very pleasent surprise. Now about the hair. Guys I know this sounds to good to be true but it is possible. Elephanto definetely knwos his stuff. I mean its only been 2 months and my hair progressed a lot for such a short time. Maybe becaused the damage was made in 4-5 months. Density increased in 2-3 weeks, new very tiny hairs are popping on the hairline and the skin on my forhead seems much more healthy. At September I was kinda Nor 2 - 2.5 and now I am below 2 for sure. I am measuring the space between the eyebrow and my hairline with my fingers. Regrowth is for sure possible, the thing is how you can optimize stuff to get better results without making too many mistakes (some mistakes I think are always necessary to achieve the end goal).
Hair Concerning Habits:
1)Mag citrate at night 1g (as Elephanto suggested)
2)ACV rinse 3 times per week
3)Daily Scalp exercises (massage, pinching)
4)Neck exercises during training (headstand, bridge on head, head spins)
5)Buteyko meditation 2 times per day for 5 minutes (although always focused on breathing very slow and controlled). I think this makes a huge difference.
6)30 minutes a day walking (as Elephanto suggested)
7)Decreased the frequency of masturbation. If you are getting laid dont do this at all. I think they are very different. I dont feel drowsy after intercourse.
Things I have noticed:
1)I quited vit d for 2 weeks as I feared that would cause calcification since I have been supplementing vit d for about 6-7 months without K2. This period my tolerence towards stress deteriorated. I was really tired after training, more anxious etc. So vit D is a big yes for me. I wont quit it again.
2)I introduced every supplement slowly as I wanted to see if I can determine whats works and whats not. I think hairloss reduced significantly just by taking Taurine.
3)K2 seems to make the scalp grow in a more masculine way. Also hair quality seemed to increase after vit K.
4)Mag Citr makes your s**t pretty bad.
5)Most effective hair habits for me are slow breathing and ACV.
This is it guys. Sorry for the long post but I wanted everyone that is going to read it to have the whole picture. Also I want people to know that hair regrowth is possible. I was pretty sceptical myself about it but not anymore. I am feeling a lot more healthy than I used to thanks to this forum. Hair seem to be on a plateau now (for about 2 weeks it looks the same). I am considering adding zinc picolinate and Iodine in the stack. I know Iodine can be dangerous and zinc can imbalance copper. Will I be OK if I supplement 50mg zinc pic and eating 1 time per week liver (concerning copper)? I ve been reading on this forum that zincs benefits and countless and also Elephanto recommends it big time. Also what do you think in general of this supplement stack+nutrition? Do you have any other reccomendations regarding hair ?
Thanks for your time