I want to postulate something, that perhaps more intelligent people can analyse.
I have taken high dose progesterone for the last few months. Not just 3x 3 drops per day, but more like 10-15 drops, twice a day. Needless to say, I got high, euphoric, anxiety dissolved (hurrah!) and very sleepy after my evening dose (surprisingly not in the morning!). I felt wonderful, but as this amount has accumulated, I became annoyingly sleepy. Unsurprising, since I got so carried away.
However, in the last two months of restarting progesterone in my luteal phase, I have gotten really bad gum irritation. Initially, it faded away, but when I dosed progesterone, it came back. I took three or four days off, in which the gums healed, and then started it again when I resumed progesterone. My gums got progessively more irritated, and I assumed I needed to clean them better, so was softer with my brush, used xylitol, baking soda, more eggshell and milk, less sugar/acid exposure for too long etc. My teeth have started moving- which feels super weird and not pleasant at all. The gums are sore, the teeth are sore, and the gum looks red and irritated. A quick google and there are many references to late stage pregancy gum and teeth pathologies similar to this, which coincides with high progesterone. Ray has mentioned that with supplemental progesterone it is quite easy to mimic progesterone levels in late pregnancy.
Now, in my limited progesterone experience, I don't doubt that it is a truly sensational hormone. And Ray always ends up being right...so, assuming it is a healing agent for gums....
I started taking ascorbic acid, after someone recommended it on another thread. No joke, one dose of 2500mg of ascorbic acid - I know that Ray doesn't recommend it at all - and my teeth already ridiculously calmer and less angry. I am wondering if I am on to something?
Ray, of course, wisely recommends upping foods generally like milk, orange juice and shellfish when supplementing things that will raise the metabolic rate. I did that already. But what could ever make vitamin C needs so high?
I am wondering what to make of the following :
Effects of ascorbic acid supplementation on serum progesterone levels in patients with a luteal phase defect.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12909517
This points towards the suggestion that serum progesterone is raised with vitamin c supplementation. Could the opposite also be true - as is true of so many vitamin, hormone and mineral interactions? Raise one and you create a deficiency of the other?
This isn't so much a "I need help, what do you suggest" post but rather, I was wondering if anyone thought that there could theoretically be a link between progesterone and vitamin c requirements.
Any insight greatly appreciated!
I have taken high dose progesterone for the last few months. Not just 3x 3 drops per day, but more like 10-15 drops, twice a day. Needless to say, I got high, euphoric, anxiety dissolved (hurrah!) and very sleepy after my evening dose (surprisingly not in the morning!). I felt wonderful, but as this amount has accumulated, I became annoyingly sleepy. Unsurprising, since I got so carried away.
However, in the last two months of restarting progesterone in my luteal phase, I have gotten really bad gum irritation. Initially, it faded away, but when I dosed progesterone, it came back. I took three or four days off, in which the gums healed, and then started it again when I resumed progesterone. My gums got progessively more irritated, and I assumed I needed to clean them better, so was softer with my brush, used xylitol, baking soda, more eggshell and milk, less sugar/acid exposure for too long etc. My teeth have started moving- which feels super weird and not pleasant at all. The gums are sore, the teeth are sore, and the gum looks red and irritated. A quick google and there are many references to late stage pregancy gum and teeth pathologies similar to this, which coincides with high progesterone. Ray has mentioned that with supplemental progesterone it is quite easy to mimic progesterone levels in late pregnancy.
Now, in my limited progesterone experience, I don't doubt that it is a truly sensational hormone. And Ray always ends up being right...so, assuming it is a healing agent for gums....
I started taking ascorbic acid, after someone recommended it on another thread. No joke, one dose of 2500mg of ascorbic acid - I know that Ray doesn't recommend it at all - and my teeth already ridiculously calmer and less angry. I am wondering if I am on to something?
Ray, of course, wisely recommends upping foods generally like milk, orange juice and shellfish when supplementing things that will raise the metabolic rate. I did that already. But what could ever make vitamin C needs so high?
I am wondering what to make of the following :
Effects of ascorbic acid supplementation on serum progesterone levels in patients with a luteal phase defect.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12909517
This points towards the suggestion that serum progesterone is raised with vitamin c supplementation. Could the opposite also be true - as is true of so many vitamin, hormone and mineral interactions? Raise one and you create a deficiency of the other?
This isn't so much a "I need help, what do you suggest" post but rather, I was wondering if anyone thought that there could theoretically be a link between progesterone and vitamin c requirements.
Any insight greatly appreciated!