Growing Beard / Scalp Hair Triggers Seborrheic Dermatitis

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  1. KnowledgeSeeker

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    Hey Ray community.

    Whenever I grow out my scalp hair or my beard, my body starts to build up a yellow crust (seborrheic dermatitis) which then causes severe hair loss (on beard and scalp).

    I lost most of my scalp hair due to that which never returned. My father still has full hair with 72 but never had this disease. I'm certain that I lost some beard hair as well because I hadn't noticed the yellow crust for a while under the beard and those places got lighter. I uploaded some pictures for clarity.

    A few days ago, I had to trim my beard down again after losing too many hair. The yellow crust got trimmed along with it and didn't reappear since then which is expected as it has always happened to me when I let my hair grow out.

    I have noticed this disease the first time with 16 (I am way older now). I would be so so grateful if someone can tell me what is going on and how to cure this. After so many years, realizing now that it could affect my beard hair as well was a huge shock for me which I had never expected before.
     

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    After trim:

    - Inflammation of beard follicles stopped (not painful to touch anymore)
    - Crust got removed and never reappeared
    - No signs of seborrheic dermatitis
     
  3. rawmeat

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    I have noticed this too on my scalp and eyebrows. When I shaved my head to a 0, it completely went away. Does it itch/tingle on your beard in the areas of this seb derm?
     
  4. sugarbabe

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    My husband has a thick long beard and he has to use beard oil everyday. It takes away a lot of the irritation. But sounds like you have the yeast infection dermatitis (Seb). Might not go away unless you address the yeast.
     
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    Rarely. It barely itched on my scalp, on my face it was a silent killer.
     
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    I definitely need an internal solution as applying topicals to thick beards is close to impossible. Also, I had tried beard oils as well but haven't seen any real improvement.
     
  7. benaoao

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    I've read polysorbate 80 being recommended, and MCT oil as a good moisturizer
     
  8. EIRE24

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    I get this exact same thing and the ONLY thing I've noticed that gets rid of it is sunlight. A second option I would reccomend is urea. I'm not sure what else cures it. I also struggle with this daily and it causes acne in my case.
     
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    Good to know that someone shares my problem. I don't have any acne on my face though. Matter of fact, I get a lot of compliments for my clean glowing skin.
     
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    Lucky you dude.
     
  11. Stramonium

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    Have you try eating liver or getting a reliable Vitamin A supplement? it really helped me with persistent dandruff
     
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    You have very coarse, wiry hair. This is a sign of improper metabolism, in my experience. It's the underlying problems causing it, but they simply become visible when you grow it out.
     
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    I don't think so because my metabolism is very fast. My hair isn't wiry and coarse actually, just that I haven't washed it that morning, so it dries out quickly which is normal I think when your beard becomes long and you suffer from this disease. Let me know if I'm wrong.
     
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    Never. I'm not using any supplements at the moment. I still make sure that I get all nutrients. Might I need more Vitamin A?
     
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    How high was your dose and how long did it take?
     
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    How high was your dose and how long did it take?
     
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    I'm only reporting my own experience. A beard is an indicator of subpar functioning, in my experience. Under good metabolism, facial hair is very fine and soft, and only grows to a few millimeters.
     
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    Seriously???
     
  19. lvysaur

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    yes, seriously. When I feel high functioning, all of my hair is very soft and fine, and my beard grows at a snail's pace; head hair grows normally.

    At least until I become stressed again, and the coarse dark hair starts coming out.

    Also, what he describes as his "metabolism being very fast" could easily be the hyperactive sympathetic state, which definitely coincides with the coarse hair from what I've seen.
     
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    I had a similar issue years ago and this got me into the process of researching health because doctors weren't much of a help.

    I'm not 100% if it's exact same but similar; flaky skin across my hairline, eyebrows, and facial hair area. But at a point got really bad and spread to my cheeks and forehead due to excessive itching, scratching and applying anything or everything I'd be recommended to use.

    Was recommended steroid creams, but they were just band-aid solutions, and immediate stopped when finding out about their cancer risk. At the time this was a big eye opener for me about medical industry, one of the creams recommended by the doctors had to legally label a warning of cancer risk because of the lawsuits they received.

    This condition would spread easily from touch/itching it or try rubbing flakes off, just gets worse, so best if you can, not to touch or itch at all unless your applying something light.

    I've applied "natural" herbal creams, like claendua helped sooth and conceal but didn't really solve the underlying flare up condition.

    These were found to be the big main triggers;
    - Eating anything that irritates my gut or is difficult to digest; wheat, beans, emulsifier additives. Most likely causing "leaky gut" and inflammation.
    - Skipping a day from wash my face+hair with just water in showers. Something secreting in combination with sebum that is irritating/inflaming the surface of the skin and needs to be washed off daily.

    I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of the issues exacerbated from PUFA intake, even though I was in my early twenties.

    So currently my skin is a lot better now. Actually best it's been in years, even better than when I was in high school.

    Things that help:
    - Liver, vitamin A, overall proper nutrition, avoid pufa.
    - Avoiding wheat, beans, gar-gum anything hard on the gut or to digest.
    - Avoid itching.
    - Avoid irritating shampoos with additives
    - Washing face+hair with just water. Baking+AVC once in a while for the hair.
     
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