Low Toxin Diet Grant Genereux's Theory Of Vitamin A Toxicity

[Blossom]

True. And thank you for answering my questions. I find the experience you and others are having to be fascinating. But yet it
goes against so much of the research that is out there.

You are also doing a low oxalate diet right? I guess a low oxalate diet would likely lower carotenoid intake.

What are your main foods right now?

Predominantly animal sourced foods at present and I tolerate the following vegetables: zucchini and yellow squash, cucumbers, mushrooms, onions and garlic. I’m working on healing my gut at the moment so I can expand my diet.

 

[Tarmander]

Ray mentioned generouxs book again on sunday in an email to @lampofred , for anyone who missed it in the email thread

wow really interesting he checked it out

 

[RWilly]

Predominantly animal sourced foods at present and I tolerate the following vegetables: zucchini and yellow squash, cucumbers, mushrooms, onions and garlic. I’m working on healing my gut at the moment so I can expand my diet.

Any carbs like sugar?

 

[Blossom]

Any carbs like sugar?

Honey seems fine and the carbs in goat kefir.

 

[saraleah]

Wonderful, I’m glad you are feeling better!

Thank you, may you enjoy continued good health as well!

 

[saraleah]

It is great that you feel much better and with such simple diet changes. I have been eating a low A diet for eleven months and I don’t have any intention to change it. I hope you get better and better.

 

[saraleah]

Thanks, Dolomite I'm right there with you. Can't wait to see how much better it gets when I'm at 11 months too, don't intend to stop either. A simple solution to an impossible problem. It works

 

[saraleah]

of those doing the low VA diet...are you doing the meat, beans, rice low VA diet...or Smith's new alternate low VA diet that includes asparagus, green beans, and some other VA foods?

Standard low VA-Beef, chicken breast, bison , olive oil, onion, mushroom, homemade bone broth,white rice, a little brown rice , grapes, peeled apple, lima bean because its lower oxalate. No fat pretzel or popcorn for a snack. Occasional sourdough or roll. I don't have access to Smith's diet- not messing with a good thing.

 

[Spondive]

That's so remarkable. What an obvious correlation. Grant said he cut is cholesterol in half. It will be exciting to see it go down, while eating lots of red meat and tilapia. Which would mean alot less inflammation going on in the body. thanks for the info Blossom.

Or it’s because the reduced vitamin A in the body has taken the breaks off the thyroid and cholesterol is being used properly.. as Peat says too much A can inhibit thyroid

 

[Blossom]

Or it’s because the reduced vitamin A in the body has taken the breaks off the thyroid and cholesterol is being used properly.. as Peat says too much A can inhibit thyroid

Great point!

 

[Tarmander]

thanks for the responses on my question above.

I have added in green beans and occasionally brocolli and cauliflower and taken meat down to one meal per day.

Have not noticed a difference really

 

[InChristAlone]

"RP:

Yes, vitamin D has very basic effects, including the klotho system, adrenals and parathyroid, renin-angiotensins system, and thyroid function. I read the anti-vitamin A book, and found no evidence in it to support his ideas."
I'd like to hear his take on why Grant healed kidney disease and severe eczema on his zero vitamin A diet.

 

[postman]

"RP:

Yes, vitamin D has very basic effects, including the klotho system, adrenals and parathyroid, renin-angiotensins system, and thyroid function. I read the anti-vitamin A book, and found no evidence in it to support his ideas."
I'd like to hear his take on why Grant healed kidney disease and severe eczema on his zero vitamin A diet.

Exactly, why are people seeing such huge benefits from restricting VA? Personal experience and testimonials are evidence. It's not proof, and it's not even really good evidence but it's still a form of evidence

 

[Tarmander]

Exactly, why are people seeing such huge benefits from restricting VA? Personal experience and testimonials are evidence. It's not proof, and it's not even really good evidence but it's still a form of evidence

It doesn’t fit with Ray’s rational bubble

 

[gaze]

Exactly, why are people seeing such huge benefits from restricting VA? Personal experience and testimonials are evidence. It's not proof, and it's not even really good evidence but it's still a form of evidence

any degenerative disease can halt or reverse in the absence of pufa. the vitamin A, calcium, and all the rest of peats ideas are related to improving the thyroid and increasing the basal metabolic rate, of which grants is extremely low considering his bpm is 55 without any exercise. or ray could be wrong. but anyone can be wrong at any time, at least ray provides hundres of scientific studies for his own observations/interpretations as evidence unlike Grant. Grants theory isn't supported by the literature, although I think everyone would benefit from theories such as this to be studied, as we are all, including ray, just trying to understand every avenue of health as possible

 

[postman]

any degenerative disease can halt or reverse in the absence of pufa. the vitamin A, calcium, and all the rest of peats ideas are related to improving the thyroid and increasing the basal metabolic rate, of which grants is extremely low considering his bpm is 55 without any exercise. or ray could be wrong. but anyone can be wrong at any time, at least ray provides hundres of scientific studies for his own observations/interpretations as evidence unlike Grant.

Ok?

 

[gaze]

Ok?

that was in response to the "why" it may work

 

[postman]

any degenerative disease can halt or reverse in the absence of pufa. the vitamin A, calcium, and all the rest of peats ideas are related to improving the thyroid and increasing the basal metabolic rate, of which grants is extremely low considering his bpm is 55 without any exercise. or ray could be wrong. but anyone can be wrong at any time, at least ray provides hundres of scientific studies for his own observations/interpretations as evidence unlike Grant. Grants theory isn't supported by the literature, although I think everyone would benefit from theories such as this to be studied, as we are all, including ray, just trying to understand every avenue of health as possible

Are you suggesting that Grant healed his acne because he ate less PUFA? I and I'm sure many others also can attest to PUFA avoidance not healing their skin, but VA avoidance healing it.

 

[gaze]

Are you suggesting that Grant healed his acne because he ate less PUFA? I and I'm sure many others also can attest to PUFA avoidance not healing their skin, but VA avoidance healing it.

well he was taking fish oil pills with added carotene for years before his health declined, so yes

 

[postman]

well he was taking fish oil pills with added carotene for years before his health declined, so yes

It's a dogmatic answer though, you're ignoring all the evidence suggesting it has anything to do with VA avoidance.