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Gonadin - Steroid Optimizer For R&D

Discussion in 'IdeaLabs' started by haidut, Feb 17, 2017.

  1. Joeyd

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    did you work out if its lowering or raising vit A?
     
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    I think yes, if the dose of pregnenolone is kept below 30mg or so. At higher doses pregnenolone starts to inhibit StAR so it would oppose some of the good effects of phytol.
     
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    So that begs the question of pregnenolone and DHEA, ie, pansterone, in conjuction with gonadin?
     
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    Same answer as for pregnenolone. All actual steroids have the ability to lower StAR in higher doses as a negative feedback mechanism. That was the whole point of releasing Gonadin - give an option to people who do not have access to steroids or do not want to use them. So, the expectation was not that it will be stacked. It still can be, but there is the potential to cancel the effects of Gonadin.
     
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    I stopped taking it. Didn't like the way I felt on it
     
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    I've found I was getting low grade headaches after taking for a few days. Is Vit A a potential corollary?
     
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    I'm not sure I never got my vitamin A level tested while on it. I do however remember developing orange calluses
     
  8. Joeyd

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    orange callouses means you probably depleted your vit A or b12?
     
  9. Joeyd

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    i suspect your vitamin A levels are low. try retinol acetate, much more effective than palmitate
     
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    do you get itchy scalp, and symptoms of high histamine/adrenaline/serotonin?
     
  11. Joeyd

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    do you find k2 helps with errections also, or just libido?
     
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    Haidut, so Gonadin along with Progestene is not recommended?
     
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    I am actually getting very positive reports on this combination from women, especially athletes.
     
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    Isn´t phytol an illegal PED for most competing athletes ?
     
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    Not to my knowledge. Where did you read/hear this??
     
  16. Joeyd

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    Are there any benefits at all that K1 has over k2 MK4? Or is k2mk4 sufficient for all vitamin K needs?
     
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    Good question, I can't remember, maybe on this forum. I thought that being a very potent aromatase inhibitor/ anti estrogen it is banned like other anti estrogens from competition.
     
  18. Joeyd

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    I'm double bumping. What's the latest to report back re hair growth?
     
  19. Joeyd

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    What amounts of these are you taking?
     
  20. Joeyd

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    Did you get the answer to this. Would be good to know as I have high cholesterol already
     
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