allblues
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Have any of you (guys primarily) dealt with HPTA-axis/gonadal suppression?
I did a stupid thing last fall and applied excessive amounts of DHT topically, mixed with olive oil.
At most i'd do 40 mg/day spread out to 20 mg each time, but usually i'd do 10-20 mg/day.
In hindsight, I don't know what I was thinking. This went on for about 2 weeks before I quit.
Testicles shrank, libido tanked, all that business.
Anyway, things seemed to get somewhat better during wintertime, with a few lingering oddities.
Size went back to normal. I've been using pregnenolone + DHEA without making things worse, through the winter.
This past week I started using some androsterone.
After about a week of 1-2 mg/day I went up to 4, 5 and then 6 mg/day, and bam, suppression came back.
'Nads shrinking, along with a sort of dull pain that comes and goes.
The only real source i find regarding this type of thing beside the broforums and some pubmed abstracts is;
Recovery of spermatogenesis following testosterone replacement therapy or anabolic-androgenic steroid use McBride J A, Coward RM - Asian J Androl
Recovery is talked about at that site in terms of many months,
So, things will probably shape up in the long run, provided I don't fiddle too much.
Waiting for this sort of thing is a pain though, is there any specific things that could be done to help the process along? What actually happens when you take too much endogenous steroids?
Ray mentioned high LH, which i guess is a rebound effect, yet the testes fail to respond to the LH?
If anyone has more info regarding this phenomenon, experiences or sources, please chime in.
I did a stupid thing last fall and applied excessive amounts of DHT topically, mixed with olive oil.
At most i'd do 40 mg/day spread out to 20 mg each time, but usually i'd do 10-20 mg/day.
In hindsight, I don't know what I was thinking. This went on for about 2 weeks before I quit.
Testicles shrank, libido tanked, all that business.
Anyway, things seemed to get somewhat better during wintertime, with a few lingering oddities.
Size went back to normal. I've been using pregnenolone + DHEA without making things worse, through the winter.
This past week I started using some androsterone.
After about a week of 1-2 mg/day I went up to 4, 5 and then 6 mg/day, and bam, suppression came back.
'Nads shrinking, along with a sort of dull pain that comes and goes.
The only real source i find regarding this type of thing beside the broforums and some pubmed abstracts is;
Recovery of spermatogenesis following testosterone replacement therapy or anabolic-androgenic steroid use McBride J A, Coward RM - Asian J Androl
Recovery is talked about at that site in terms of many months,
Alternatively, the same data demonstrate a median time to recovery of 20 × 10 6 ml -1 sperm ranging from 3 to 6 months, with probability estimates suggesting recovery in 67%, 90%, 96%, and 100% of men at 6, 12, 16, and 24 months, respectively, after discontinuation of testosterone exposure.
So, things will probably shape up in the long run, provided I don't fiddle too much.
Waiting for this sort of thing is a pain though, is there any specific things that could be done to help the process along? What actually happens when you take too much endogenous steroids?
Ray mentioned high LH, which i guess is a rebound effect, yet the testes fail to respond to the LH?
If anyone has more info regarding this phenomenon, experiences or sources, please chime in.