Fragrance -- Ugh!

DavidGardner

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I am trying not to be a hypochondriac with synthetic chemicals, but I cannot hold back my aversion for household products containing "fragrance."

A. The smell is not good. I do not understand how anyone can think old lady perfume or Oxi-Clean smells nice. It doesn't! It is nauseating!

B. Maybe this is purely psychosomatic, but clothes laundered in fragrance-containing detergents make me feel angry, emotionally volatile, and highly serotonergic in a bad way. Also a little bit jittery and delirious. I get the same effect from Febreze, only with that I also get headaches and respiratory discomfort.

Can anyone else confirm this? My guess is that whatever chemicals are lumped into "fragrance" are endocrine disruptors, probably estrogenic.
 

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I know some scent's that entices and instigates me intensely, like some unique girls, apparently with strong scents; zero girls use the ones that seduce me

Household Fragrances, I always disliked them, except one... Foremost, those in new cars are aversive!

Pointless is one of the specialists in pheromones...
 
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Herbie

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Yeah I hate fragrances too, sickening and grotesque. I use washing powder which has none, but will try baking soda soon, I make my own spray and wipe with eucalyptus oil, use baking soda for deodorant, use vinegar,bleach and borax for other cleaning.

Pure essential oils might be an ok cologne but I wouldn’t wear mainstream cologne because then I would smell like the next guy and some if not most of them are offensive.
 

JessFields

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Look into multiple chemical sensitivity. Possibly a fast phase 1, slow phase 2 liver metabolism. I've had some success with the following:
niacinamide (slows phase 1), naringin (slows phase 1), calcium d glucarate, glycine, taurine, sulfate (either mag or glucosamine ), methylation supps, milk thistle. May be forgetting some things. Emotional changes are my main symptom around fragrances
 

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I was strongly averse to many fragrances years ago when pregnant. Eventually found one or two soaps with natural oils that I was OK with.
 

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Most synthetic aroma chemicals/odoarants are active at olfactory receptors which are G-protein coupled receptors. Some mainstream aromachemiclas, especially synthetic musks are even active at nuclear receptors and are often times estrogenic or agonizing androgen or progsterone receptors. There are alos benficial aromachemiclas from a Pea pov though too.
 

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There's been some speculation in the pheromones community that GABA can eliminate the psychoactive effects of scents.
 

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Also, are you sensitive to other senses? Like certain colors, textures, noises?
 

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Most synthetic aroma chemicals/odoarants are active at olfactory receptors which are G-protein coupled receptors. Some mainstream aromachemiclas, especially synthetic musks are even active at nuclear receptors and are often times estrogenic or agonizing androgen or progsterone receptors. There are alos benficial aromachemiclas from a Pea pov though too.

Which scents/aromas are beneficial?
 

LA

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I am trying not to be a hypochondriac with synthetic chemicals, but I cannot hold back my aversion for household products containing "fragrance."
Fake fragrance is horrible, AWFUL especially Febreze. We grow True Egyptian Jasmine and true English Lavender in the yard. The hummingbirds and bees love the blossoms. It took a long time to find true Egyptian Jasmine (the kind used in high-end French perfume) since most nurseries sell the hardy, stinky-fake jasmine used on the edges of some freeway/expressway off-ramps. We like an occasional whiff of Amber Essence from crystallized aromatic resins and oil native to India. It was once available in herbal supply stores in Northern.Calif and in NYC. Used to burn Blue Pearl Classic Champa incense every other month or so and have not for a few years. An old classic 1930-1940s Guerlain Perfume from Paris is interesting. I dont use it although it is nice to breath if the mood hits. It was a gift from a teacher of mine who didnt want it after their mother died.
Synthetic fragrance oils are bad for people. I believe they are harmful
 
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I love real fragrance, good perfumes are amazing. I doubt there is any harm in it so long as you apply to clothing and not skin.
 

Jennifer

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I am trying not to be a hypochondriac with synthetic chemicals, but I cannot hold back my aversion for household products containing "fragrance."

A. The smell is not good. I do not understand how anyone can think old lady perfume or Oxi-Clean smells nice. It doesn't! It is nauseating!

B. Maybe this is purely psychosomatic, but clothes laundered in fragrance-containing detergents make me feel angry, emotionally volatile, and highly serotonergic in a bad way. Also a little bit jittery and delirious. I get the same effect from Febreze, only with that I also get headaches and respiratory discomfort.

Can anyone else confirm this? My guess is that whatever chemicals are lumped into "fragrance" are endocrine disruptors, probably estrogenic.
My aunt and I both get headaches from synthetic fragrances, and I’ve even developed rashes from them before, but I have no problems with natural fragrances. I actually use absolutes, floral waxes, hydrosols and macerated/enfleurage oils daily for their therapeutic effects and because certain scents just make me happy. When it’s snowing outside, my Monoï oil has me in the tropics. lol
 

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Most synthetic aroma chemicals/odoarants are active at olfactory receptors which are G-protein coupled receptors. Some mainstream aromachemiclas, especially synthetic musks are even active at nuclear receptors and are often times estrogenic or agonizing androgen or progsterone receptors. There are alos benficial aromachemiclas from a Pea pov though too.
can you please elaborate which fragrance are progesterone receptor agonists?
 

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Since peating, I can't really tolerate fragrance - cologne, perfume. any type of cleaning chemical smell will do it for me and I can sense it out well too - I feel estrogen start to rise if I catch a whiff or two

I stopped using deoderant/shampoo and soap as well, but still shower everyday and you would THINK I would start to smell, but not at all unless I start eating meat more often and/or a lot of starch. Starch actually isn't too bad, but meat everyday will make me smell like a farm animal and in which case my sister will tell me i smell like sh*t. Eating a lot of fruit gives me this faint fruity smell under my pits and even if I sweat - it doesn't smell - my experience
 
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