Fluoride In Tap Water Is One Likely Cause Of Hypothyroidism

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  1. haidut

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    The study is being criticized by the mainstream press, but the authors stand behind their findings and claim the result have been replicated many times (in animals studies).

    http://www.newsweek.com/water-fluoridat ... ?piano_d=1
    http://jech.bmj.com/content/early/2015/ ... 1.abstract

    "...A large study that looked at data from nearly every general medical practice in England suggests that water fluoridation may increase the risk of developing hypothyroidism, or underactive thyroid. This condition, in which the thyroid gland doesn’t produce enough hormones, is associated with symptoms such as fatigue, obesity and depression. The study found that locations with fluoridated water supplies were more than 30 percent more likely to have high levels of hypothyroidism, compared to areas with low levels of the chemical in the water. Overall, there were 9 percent more cases of underactive thyroid in fluoridated places."
     
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    "The study found that locations with fluoridated water supplies were more than 30 percent more likely to have high levels of hypothyroidism"

    Wow.

    It sucks that my Brita filter doesn't remove fluoride.
     
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    I'm surprised there isn't more talk going on about this. It could be a very important factor for a lot of people, judging by that study.
     
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    This study is timely, before the prevalence of water fluoridation in the UK increases. I can't imagine people accepting to be drinking added chemicals in their water, especially for such a controversial one like fluoride.
     
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    Seems like the critic is arguing that hypothyroidism is mostly iodine deficiency, so no connection to fluoride, and discarded all other human and animal studies on fluoride. Dentists, who have been the ones encouraging fluoride exposure through water and toothpaste for decades, stand to lose almost all their credibility on this controversy.

    A critic of the study: http://jech.bmj.com/content/69/7/617.full#ref-7

    It relies a lot on this study: http://online.liebertpub.com/doi/abs/10 ... 2761016458

     
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    iodine can help prevent the body from absorbing into the thyroid bromine, fluoride, chlorine ect...if you are topped off in it, but still, avoiding those other halides is a big deal if at all possible
     
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    If memory serves, hypothyroidism exposes you to a large number of dental problems.
     
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    Fluoride displaces iodine, there are a lot of studies about the connection between fluorinated water and hypothyroidism and other diseases.

    Displaces iodine in the body

    These figures would be worrying enough, since they mean that iodine deficiency, which results in hypothyroidism (thyroid hormone cannot be manufactured without iodine) is likely to affect huge numbers of people. What makes it infinitely worse, is that fluorine, being a halogen (chemically related to iodine), but very much more active, displaces iodine. So that the uptake of iodine is compromised by the ejection, as it were, of the iodine by fluorine. To condemn the entire population, already having marginal levels of iodine, to inevitable progressive failure of their thyroid system by fluoridating the water, borders on criminal lunacy.
    I would like to place a scenario in front of those colleagues who favour fluoridation. A new pill is marketed. Some trials not all together satisfactory, nevertheless, show a striking improvement in dental caries. Unfortunately, it has been found to be thyrotoxic, mutagenic, immunosuppressive, cause arthritis and infertility in comparatively small doses over a relatively short period of time.
     
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    Well, for what it's worth, since this is a UK study, the UK is, even by official standards, "deficient" in iodine and in selenium.

    This may well be a contributing factor. Of course, it's not a good reason to let fluoride in tap-water off the hook.
    We do need adequate iodine, but we do not need any fluoride.
     
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    They started adding fluoride in different countries because they though it will help with dental health, but after they saw that it wasn't true, plus it lead to a lot of different health problems, there's a lot of info and controversy about fluorinated water. But in some countries they have kept doing so.
     
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    What do you suggest we use instead of fluoride toothpaste Haidut? Is there a risk of cavities if we don't use flouride. I'm starting to think maybe the reason I can't get my waking temps and pulse up is because I brush with sensodyne day and night.Although my midday my temps are great.
     
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    I think simply swishing with coconut or olive oil can have the same antiseptic effect as what the toothpaste claims to provide. The brushing of teeth is supposed to do mainly two things - strengthen teeth and kill pathogens that can cause plaque and gum disease. The tooth strength depends almost entirely on thyroid function and keeping estrogen low. So toothpaste would not be likely to help unless it contains things like thyroid, calcium, vitamin D, vitamin K, etc. And for killing of the germs, you can use pretty much any antiseptic, even clear alcohol like vodka. Listerine is a just a more toxic version of alcohol mouth wash.
    Something that potentially combines both the tooth strengthening and antiseptic effects would be a solution of caffeine. So, making a 2%-5% solution and doing moutwashes a few times day would probably be a viable alternative to toothpaste. You can still brush gently without paste just to get some of the food debris out of the hiding places.
     
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    I'm going to give that a try. Is that caffeine solution in water or alcohol?
     
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    Caffeine dissolves better in water (I think) but dissolving it in ethanol would basically increase the antiseptic cffect. You'd be creating a Peatarian "Listerine" of sorts.
     
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    Thanks for the info.
     
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    Ethanol tends to dry gums out. Thats not so great for a mouthwash. Ethanol in mouthwash may be linked to cancer.
     
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    So brush with Irish coffee? I'm in!:thumbsup:
     
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    I guess it is possible, but that would mean all the people who drink on a regular basis would be prone to mouth cancer as there would be a much longer contact of ethanol with oral mucosa in drinkers. They do have higher rate of GI cancers but I have not seen anything on mouth cancer. Do you have any references on ethanol and mouth cancer?
     
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