Flat Earth No Dome No Stars

Jing

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Lol this was interesting for me to research but that's about where it ended with you. If you want to reject all of physics that's your choice.
You can ignore everything I've explained if you want that's up to you . You never could prove gravity exists could you? Thanks for showing that you only have faith and trust in authority
 

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You can ignore everything I've explained if you want that's up to you .
That's the thing..... you've explained nothing.

This is problem with all Flat Earther's. They don't have explanations for any of their beliefs.

It's not Gravity that pulls things to the Earth...... It's something else that they can't disclose.

The Earth isn't a sphere...... but it's some other 3D Object that they can't disclose.
 

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That's the thing..... you've explained nothing.

This is problem with all Flat Earther's. They don't have explanations for any of their beliefs.

It's not Gravity that pulls things to the Earth...... It's something else that they can't disclose.

The Earth isn't a sphere...... but it's some other 3D Object that they can't disclose.
You have too be trolling lol. Just scroll up a few posts and you will see that I literally explained that things fall to earth because they are more dense than the air, hence why helium balloons rise because they are less dense than the air . Its so simple it's crazy how you can't understand this simple fact we can all observe and test 😂
 

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You have too be trolling lol. Just scroll up a few posts and you will see that I literally explained that things fall to earth because they are more dense than the air, hence why helium balloons rise because they are less dense than the air . Its so simple it's crazy how you can't understand this simple fact we can all observe and test 😂
That doesn't do anything to disprove gravity.

So, why is dense stuff attracted to the Earth? Just coz it's dense?
 

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That doesn't do anything to disprove gravity.

So, why is dense stuff attracted to the Earth? Just coz it's dense?
It's not attracted to the Earth why are you so focused on attraction? It depends on the medium aswell that's why the same object could fall through air but float on water. Things go down because that's the way the world is there is an up and down even our bodies know up from down , go upside down you will feel the pressure in your head. Look up to the skies then look down to the ground It's really not hard. You have been watching too many science fiction space films 😅

The more dense object falls down because the medium it is in can't support it.
 

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It's not attracted to the Earth why are you so focused on attraction? It depends on the medium aswell that's why the same object could fall through air but float on water. Things go down because that's the way the world is there is an up and down even our bodies know up from down , go upside down you will feel the pressure in your head. Look up to the skies then look down to the ground It's really not hard. You have been watching too many science fiction space films 😅

The more dense object falls down because the medium it is in can't support it.
Silly. You just keep talking in circles, never explaining anything. Just "Down is down, because it's down."

I don't believe every alternative theory just because it's alternative. And Flat Earth is just too silly, and doesn't make any logical sense, nor has a better alternative model than the globe. To believe it, you have to buy into without any facts.

How come there are no engineers and scientists forming organizations for "Flat Earth Truth?" We have whistleblowers for all other issues.

When it comes to the COVID scam, there are all sorts of doctors, nurses, scientists, and pharma executives that have been warning about various issues around this fake pandemic, and have been for the whole time.

The organization "Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth" has over 3500 signers- Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth | WTC Twin Towers and Building 7

I've also heard of "Pilots for 9/11 Truth," where pilots of 30 years experience have testified they couldn't pull off the moves supposed amateur hijackers did that day.

Where are your engineers, pilots, scientists, and such blowing the whistle on this "Spinning Ball" fraud? Like, living people willing to sign their name to it, not out of context quotes from the late 1800s?
 

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Silly. You just keep talking in circles, never explaining anything. Just "Down is down, because it's down."

I don't believe every alternative theory just because it's alternative. And Flat Earth is just too silly, and doesn't make any logical sense, nor has a better alternative model than the globe. To believe it, you have to buy into without any facts.

How come there are no engineers and scientists forming organizations for "Flat Earth Truth?" We have whistleblowers for all other issues.

When it comes to the COVID scam, there are all sorts of doctors, nurses, scientists, and pharma executives that have been warning about various issues around this fake pandemic, and have been for the whole time.

The organization "Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth" has over 3500 signers- Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth | WTC Twin Towers and Building 7

I've also heard of "Pilots for 9/11 Truth," where pilots of 30 years experience have testified they couldn't pull off the moves supposed amateur hijackers did that day.

Where are your engineers, pilots, scientists, and such blowing the whistle on this "Spinning Ball" fraud? Like, living people willing to sign their name to it, not out of context quotes from the late 1800s?
So I'm confused do you not know up from down then? Why exactly do you believe there is no up or down?

Yh I don't need scientists to tell me what to believe.

There is a pilot on Facebook called pilotlx
 

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So I'm confused do you not know up from down then? Why exactly do you believe there is no up or down?
Why exactly do you believe that Bigfoot only eats purple pancakes?

This is beyond silly at this point, and you clearly are making assumptions that I never said. You can't quote me saying there is no up or down in any previous post, and you know that.

I think it's time we both hit the ignore button, and go our separate ways.
 

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Why exactly do you believe that Bigfoot only eats purple pancakes?

This is beyond silly at this point, and you clearly are making assumptions that I never said. You can't quote me saying there is no up or down in any previous post, and you know that.

I think it's time we both hit the ignore button, and go our separate ways.
Cool, well you clearly think there is no up or down otherwise we wouldn't be having this argument would we? If scientists are correct and you just believe them why don't you just drink fish oil?
 

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C'mon guys! This shouldn't happen in a flat earth. I mean. There's gotta be a dip somewhere.
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Nice try, Mt Rainier is only 100 miles from Mt Hood making it very visible in the line of sight from that elevation as I showed multiple times with tool for calculating the horizon dip.

But for a more in depth explanation of how this can PROVE a sphere here we go:
Explained: How Mount Rainier helps demonstrate the shape of the globe

south sister to rainier.jpg


Elevations are taken from NAVD88. Other sources may vary up to 20 feet or so. These variations, however, make almost no difference to the results of the calculations, and zero difference to the conclusion.

This photo demonstrates that the Earth cannot be flat in a number of ways:

1. Everything in it aligns perfectly with a globe of radius ~3959 miles. Comparisons with globe-derived tools such as peakfinder, peakvisor, and Google Earth show no discrepancies.

2. A simple rule of perspective states that all points above one's eye level remain above eye level. If the earth were flat, Rainier should be the highest mountain in this photograph, with the viewer looking up to it. North Sister, however, which is lower than the camera, appears higher in the photograph than Mount Rainier.

3. If the earth were flat, Mount Rainier would be towering above Olallie Butte, rather than appearing at almost exactly the same apparent height.

4. Using simple pythagorean calculations, we can work out the apparent height order the mountains should appear in the photo if the earth was flat. They are (with their equivalent viewing angles):

upload_2018-12-26_11-48-56.png


(A positive angle indicates above eye level - i.e., looking up - while a negative angle indicates looking down.)

5. It's also possible to use the predicted angles to demonstrate even further the flat earth model's incompatibility with this photograph. Not only are the positions inaccurate, but the intervals between the predicted angles are wildly divergent from what is seen. Rainier, Olallie, Saint Helens, and Middle Sister, for example, are all at about the same apparent height in the photograph, whereas the flat earth model predicts that they would be spread apart at a range of over 1.2 degrees.

6. By calculating the viewing angles to these mountains for a spherical earth model, we can see that they agree to a very high degree of accuracy:

upload_2018-12-26_12-56-34.png


This time, the intervals between the angles agree with what is seen in the picture. The four mountains mentioned above - Rainier, Olallie, Saint Helens, and Middle Sister - are separated here by a difference of just 0.116 degrees, while the difference between Jefferson and Hood is about the same as the difference between Hood and North Sister.

The predicted order is also correct, apart from Olallie and Saint Helens, which are at exactly the same apparent height in the photo. This really is nitpicking, though: Olallie should probably appear only one or two pixels higher than Saint Helens, according to spherical calculations. A minute deviation of the camera from horizontal may explain this.

7. The angular size of the visible portions of the mountains are nothing like they should be on a flat earth, whereas they agree completely with a sphere earth.

8. Perhaps the most basic question for flat earth believers here is "where is eye level in this photo?" No matter where it is placed to align with two or more peaks, it will always be contradicted by others.

The rest of it is just gloss.
 

Jing

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Nice try, Mt Rainier is only 100 miles from Mt Hood making it very visible in the line of sight from that elevation as I showed multiple times with tool for calculating the horizon dip.

But for a more in depth explanation of how this can PROVE a sphere here we go:
Explained: How Mount Rainier helps demonstrate the shape of the globe

View attachment 28917


Elevations are taken from NAVD88. Other sources may vary up to 20 feet or so. These variations, however, make almost no difference to the results of the calculations, and zero difference to the conclusion.

This photo demonstrates that the Earth cannot be flat in a number of ways:

1. Everything in it aligns perfectly with a globe of radius ~3959 miles. Comparisons with globe-derived tools such as peakfinder, peakvisor, and Google Earth show no discrepancies.

2. A simple rule of perspective states that all points above one's eye level remain above eye level. If the earth were flat, Rainier should be the highest mountain in this photograph, with the viewer looking up to it. North Sister, however, which is lower than the camera, appears higher in the photograph than Mount Rainier.

3. If the earth were flat, Mount Rainier would be towering above Olallie Butte, rather than appearing at almost exactly the same apparent height.

4. Using simple pythagorean calculations, we can work out the apparent height order the mountains should appear in the photo if the earth was flat. They are (with their equivalent viewing angles):

upload_2018-12-26_11-48-56.png


(A positive angle indicates above eye level - i.e., looking up - while a negative angle indicates looking down.)

5. It's also possible to use the predicted angles to demonstrate even further the flat earth model's incompatibility with this photograph. Not only are the positions inaccurate, but the intervals between the predicted angles are wildly divergent from what is seen. Rainier, Olallie, Saint Helens, and Middle Sister, for example, are all at about the same apparent height in the photograph, whereas the flat earth model predicts that they would be spread apart at a range of over 1.2 degrees.

6. By calculating the viewing angles to these mountains for a spherical earth model, we can see that they agree to a very high degree of accuracy:

upload_2018-12-26_12-56-34.png


This time, the intervals between the angles agree with what is seen in the picture. The four mountains mentioned above - Rainier, Olallie, Saint Helens, and Middle Sister - are separated here by a difference of just 0.116 degrees, while the difference between Jefferson and Hood is about the same as the difference between Hood and North Sister.

The predicted order is also correct, apart from Olallie and Saint Helens, which are at exactly the same apparent height in the photo. This really is nitpicking, though: Olallie should probably appear only one or two pixels higher than Saint Helens, according to spherical calculations. A minute deviation of the camera from horizontal may explain this.

7. The angular size of the visible portions of the mountains are nothing like they should be on a flat earth, whereas they agree completely with a sphere earth.

8. Perhaps the most basic question for flat earth believers here is "where is eye level in this photo?" No matter where it is placed to align with two or more peaks, it will always be contradicted by others.

The rest of it is just gloss.
Wheres the dip downwards? Why is nothing tilting to the sides?
 

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Why exactly do you believe that Bigfoot only eats purple pancakes?

This is beyond silly at this point, and you clearly are making assumptions that I never said. You can't quote me saying there is no up or down in any previous post, and you know that.

I think it's time we both hit the ignore button, and go our separate ways.
That's the conclusion I came to with Jing, in fact I already had him ignored due to other threads he has posted, I started engaging because I kept seeing that he was replying to me. My bad as this was a waste to engage with him. I did have fun looking up this stuff though, so I feel more confident if I ever had to discuss it again.
 

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That's the conclusion I came to with Jing, in fact I already had him ignored due to other threads he has posted, I started engaging because I kept seeing that he was replying to me. My bad as this was a waste to engage with him. I did have fun looking up this stuff though, so I feel more confident if I ever had to discuss it again.
God just prove gravity exists already lol
 

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Because you don't want to have a proper debate I'll just post some memes that debunk your fantasy world.
 

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Flat earthers are living in the dark ages.
Lol and globe earthers are living in fantasy world.
I'll wait for you to provide observable,testable,repeatable evidence that gravity is a real force. No gravity no heliocentric model.
 

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Flat earthers are living in the dark ages.
Careful. Perhaps you have only been blinded by the "science" that is making great great strides in reversing climate change and curing cancer.
 

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Lol and globe earthers are living in fantasy world.
I'll wait for you to provide observable,testable,repeatable evidence that gravity is a real force. No gravity no heliocentric model.

Drop something, it always falls towards the earth. How do flat-earthers explain an airplane flying in one direction arriving at the same place it left from?
 
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