Finally Cured From Post Finasteride Syndrome

[ruprmurdoch]

Thanks man, but It’s not theory it’s truth. It’s what this entire website is built around. Essentially iron and cholesterol utilization. These are what vitamins, minerals, aminos utilize to make hormones.

People here got mad at gbold. But gbold was just using Peats principles. Yes iron overload is the death to mankind and is probably what’s occurring with both the v1rus and the inoculations. Yes we can do things to lower systemic iron. But ultimately it’s how we use our iron to make hormones with cholesterol.

I’m not saying I know the actual “cure” to pfs. But this approach worked in optimizing my health and correcting 99% of my physical, mental, sexual issues at the time. I did it all. I made 1000s of posts on hackstasis and had no idea what I was talking about lol.

Gbold saved me in mid 2020 pushing chromium after I destroyed myself with too much zinc b1 b2 earlier that year. The hair test isn’t everything. Basically with my issues now, nobody would read my hair test and know what to do except myself who knows my own history.


Wow so Fe decreased after itracanazole? That’s very interesting.

My biggest concern right now I’m thinking of- what does htma iron show? Is it ferric, ferrous, transferrin. I just don’t know. I do know when my iron went crazy high in htma it was chromium that helped me (binds transferrin) but also took A E folate.

I do know when iron is low in htma, it can mean iron toxicity. Where body isn’t using it. And that’s where it can become deadly. That’s where my health gets horrid. I’ve been fe toxic for 2.5 years. When low I’m at my worst.

B12 is epicenter of methylation indeed. Look at Freddd in the CFS forums pulling himself out of a wheelchair. Then we have the guy who rudely responded to my post “NuTrIeNtS dOn’T do anything. PFS is about hormones epigenetics.” I’m sorry but if nutrients pull a guy out of a wheelchair they must have some merit.

B2 has been center of methylation for me for most part. But I needed b12 to get me going this past fall. Not long just a month. But I was so copper toxic. Methylation just died badly and needed a real pick me up. Now I don’t really need to aid methylation at all. It hurts. Too much gluth production hurts minerals.

this is offtopic so it will be my last response to this issue. in my case itraconazole by dealing with candidia-it lower Fe(its proven in studies, candida like Fe), change my eating habits (always like sugar sweetes, after itra for two weeks my taste was only vegetables-no meat,fruit very rare, no or very low sugars), this last from 6 months. its not diet its my appetite. never was aware how fungus/bacteria control us until now.

my Cu was always a bit low on htma, after itra it even decrease ( i think this is reason why my temples lost hairs-this is minus of theraphy i had), body uses it to kill around 10kg candida in my body. but now im refilling it, along with K and Mg(beacuse itra cause hypokalemia). so i will see maybe my hairs will get better.

So as I think, low Cu on htma is just low Cu, high Fe is just high Fe, at least in my case.

 

[outcast1979]

if nsaids are helpful i think you should try pine pollen route. i describe way of how to get rid of pfs few posts back, read it.

Thanks for the advice, i have read you previous post,is there any way or some kind of supplement that can raise my own progesterone.Could progesterone make my own production to cease like anabolic steroids.I mean could be a negative feedback loop happen if i supply my self with progesterone. A last one you mention mgcl+Kcl from my little knowledge they are minerals.I will give it a try, from minerals the one that help me is zinc don't know if it is due to anti serotonin action or the anti estrogen properties.I tried pine pollen in the past without any success.In my last post i mentioned my positive experience on nsaids for pfs along with that another one that help me greatly almost 100% cure was antibiotics amoxicillin.Thanks again for the info you provided

 

[PeskyPeater]

bulbine natalensis raises your own progesterone and aspirin decreases its metabolism, prolonging it's effects

and losartan inhibits the angiontensin renin pathway by blocking aldosterone which is made from progesterone, so losartan or candesartan may spare progesterone

 

[outcast1979]

bulbine natalensis raises your own progesterone and aspirin decreases its metabolism, prolonging it's effects

and losartan inhibits the angiontensin renin pathway by blocking aldosterone which is made from progesterone, so losartan or candesartan may spare progesterone

thank you for your helpful suggestions.

 

[Mister]

Well, well another theory getting shut down on propeciahelp...

There's a lot of talk about auto antibodies on the PSSD groups. (also seems to be correlation with long covid)

A user made a very interesting thread about it but of course our friendly mods closed the thread and made it invisible to search...

Cause of PFS/PSSD - I bring back this old hypothesis and bring supporting evidence

Hey guys, @henrique @lazarusry @Oscar @spstriken @Northern_Star @Bigpoppa10040 @Mark2012 @moonman1 @joetz I would like to re-ignite the hypothesis that the cause of PFS is autoimmune - more specifically auto-antibodies - I first saw this theory being discussed between @Oscar and @spstriken way...

forum.propeciahelp.com

Worth the read.

 

[outcast1979]

Well, well another theory getting shut down on propeciahelp...

There's a lot of talk about auto antibodies on the PSSD groups. (also seems to be correlation with long covid)

A user made a very interesting thread about it but of course our friendly mods closed the thread and made it invisible to search...

Cause of PFS/PSSD - I bring back this old hypothesis and bring supporting evidence

Hey guys, @henrique @lazarusry @Oscar @spstriken @Northern_Star @Bigpoppa10040 @Mark2012 @moonman1 @joetz I would like to re-ignite the hypothesis that the cause of PFS is autoimmune - more specifically auto-antibodies - I first saw this theory being discussed between @Oscar and @spstriken way...

forum.propeciahelp.com

Worth the read.

I can testify when i am sleep deprived things looking normal as before, never succeed to connect the dot. Also nsaid's revert things back to normal.If overactivity of androgens mess with our immune system due to the fact that they are not bind to receptors, can that explain the fact that some users after run a cycle of proviron feel better. Does proviron lower the androgens after the cycle and force our organism to resensitise androgen receptors.Any supplement that can calm down an over reactive immune system? this syndrome is pure hell.

 

[Cooper]

Guys, after failing with my last high dose TRT and HCG protocol now i finally concluded that my PAS is due to my gut. I have strong evidence to support this which i already talked about it here multiple times. I just have 5 minutes or so right now so im gonna cut this short and simple.

There are usually 3 origins of PFS- PAS- PSSD:

1. Androgen Receptor and Hormonal: You guys already know these stuff.

FIX: 500mg or more TRT a week with HCG for 3 months and maybe Progesterone during the TRT followed with PCT will CURE you.

This will upregulate the AR's back to normal and fix the neurosteroid issues. This type mostly belongs to PFS cases and somewhat actually easiest to fix.

Also you may have HPA axis dysfunction on this sub- type, then Mifepristone will cure you.

2. Gut related: Silent SIBO, SIFO, IBS, Gut Dybiosis, Leaky gut. Usually PAS and PSSD cases fall into this type. But PFS cases also have these issues on top of their AR issues, that's why some PFS cases fail to recover fully with steroids, they forgot to fix the GUT! Ups!

FIX: Fecal Matter Transplant, Water Fast, Anti- Biotics (Look for stories on reddit PSSD), Pro and Pre- Biotic treatments, other gut related protocols and drugs. Each case is unique.

3. Auto Immune related: Gut issues cause auto immune related response and attack the near organs including the gut itself, this is more of an sub type of the type 2 actually. Many PSSD cases and few PAS cases reported having reported affected Auto Immune Antibodies... You can test if you have these antibodies with a private lab or hospital yourself, go and do it.

FIX: IVIG, Plasmapherisis, Immunoadsorption therapies can fix this.


I hope i can save some lives or at least help others with this message, this will forever stay out there, so heads up to the future generations of the sufferers. I have PAS for nearly 8 years now and i devoted my life to research, archiving and talking with the recovered people so i hope i have a valid backup to this.

I have an MRI session tomorrow, of my spine root area which shows the affected nerves that travels to pelvic floor and genital area, will keep you guys updated. Also i will do EMG and other MRI's of these areas to really see if my gut pinches the nerves around here. Test for these types and find your own way out of it!

TAKE ACTION BEFORE IT IS TOO LATE!

 

[Mister]

New video:



Leo claims in the video Sodium Valproate recovered some of his PFS clients by titrating it up slowly and down slowly. Although watch out with it because it's an hdac inhibitor (reverses epigenetics changes which can be good for us) but seems hdac inhibitors caused some PFS people to get worse. Hope someone with more knowledge of Sodium Valproate could comment.

And I tried Sodium Butyrate in the past which is also a hdac inhibitor but didn't help.

 

[Mister]

Guys, after failing with my last high dose TRT and HCG protocol now i finally concluded that my PAS is due to my gut. I have strong evidence to support this which i already talked about it here multiple times. I just have 5 minutes or so right now so im gonna cut this short and simple.

There are usually 3 origins of PFS- PAS- PSSD:

1. Androgen Receptor and Hormonal: You guys already know these stuff.

FIX: 500mg or more TRT a week with HCG for 3 months and maybe Progesterone during the TRT followed with PCT will CURE you.

This will upregulate the AR's back to normal and fix the neurosteroid issues. This type mostly belongs to PFS cases and somewhat actually easiest to fix.

Also you may have HPA axis dysfunction on this sub- type, then Mifepristone will cure you.

Watch out with Mifepristone though, it's a potent anti androgen.

Warning about Mifepristone (RU486, "Ella", etc.)

I have been made aware that some guys are experimenting with therapies based on Mifepristone (RU486, “Ella”, etc.). Just one word of warning: Mifepristone is a potent anti-androgen (1). Long time users of this board may recall that many therapies which made people (initially) feel better were...

forum.propeciahelp.com

 

[outcast1979]

New video:



Leo claims in the video Sodium Valproate recovered some of his PFS clients by titrating it up slowly and down slowly. Although watch out with it because it's an hdac inhibitor (reverses epigenetics changes which can be good for us) but seems hdac inhibitors caused some PFS people to get worse. Hope someone with more knowledge of Sodium Valproate could comment.

And I tried Sodium Butyrate in the past which is also a hdac inhibitor but didn't help.

I read some similar testimonies about hdacs on longecity, the dudes there claim that even a small of dosage of 1 or 2 pills in a 2 month cycle cure their social anxiety.The hdac that mentioned was vorinostat.

 

[outcast1979]

Guys, after failing with my last high dose TRT and HCG protocol now i finally concluded that my PAS is due to my gut. I have strong evidence to support this which i already talked about it here multiple times. I just have 5 minutes or so right now so im gonna cut this short and simple.

There are usually 3 origins of PFS- PAS- PSSD:

1. Androgen Receptor and Hormonal: You guys already know these stuff.

FIX: 500mg or more TRT a week with HCG for 3 months and maybe Progesterone during the TRT followed with PCT will CURE you.

This will upregulate the AR's back to normal and fix the neurosteroid issues. This type mostly belongs to PFS cases and somewhat actually easiest to fix.

Also you may have HPA axis dysfunction on this sub- type, then Mifepristone will cure you.

2. Gut related: Silent SIBO, SIFO, IBS, Gut Dybiosis, Leaky gut. Usually PAS and PSSD cases fall into this type. But PFS cases also have these issues on top of their AR issues, that's why some PFS cases fail to recover fully with steroids, they forgot to fix the GUT! Ups!

FIX: Fecal Matter Transplant, Water Fast, Anti- Biotics (Look for stories on reddit PSSD), Pro and Pre- Biotic treatments, other gut related protocols and drugs. Each case is unique.

3. Auto Immune related: Gut issues cause auto immune related response and attack the near organs including the gut itself, this is more of an sub type of the type 2 actually. Many PSSD cases and few PAS cases reported having reported affected Auto Immune Antibodies... You can test if you have these antibodies with a private lab or hospital yourself, go and do it.

FIX: IVIG, Plasmapherisis, Immunoadsorption therapies can fix this.


I hope i can save some lives or at least help others with this message, this will forever stay out there, so heads up to the future generations of the sufferers. I have PAS for nearly 8 years now and i devoted my life to research, archiving and talking with the recovered people so i hope i have a valid backup to this.

I have an MRI session tomorrow, of my spine root area which shows the affected nerves that travels to pelvic floor and genital area, will keep you guys updated. Also i will do EMG and other MRI's of these areas to really see if my gut pinches the nerves around here. Test for these types and find your own way out of it!

TAKE ACTION BEFORE IT IS TOO LATE!

Great post and helpful info, in my case of pfs the weird part is that i never had loss of muscles etc in the opposite after stopped fin my bumps in the gym was a little better in comparison to pre fin era.The problems for me are mental and musculoskeletal like back pain.

 

[Mister]

Interesting new video about a potential PFS guy:


View: https://www.instagram.com/p/Cli_JVoA7pE/


He feels better with test and HCG although something weird with his sperm.

 

[Mister]

Everyone knows about water fasting but dry fasting is even more efficient and benefitial.

Good read: The advantages of dry fasting compared to water fasting

Seems worth a try for everyone with PFS.

 

[Mister]

View: https://www.reddit.com/r/FinasterideSyndrome/comments/z8ya51/my_story_success_after_years_tldr_time_tongkat


New recovery with Tongkat ali playing a part. Read many good things about it too, sadly seems to be hard to get in europe these days due to new EU regulations.

 

[outcast1979]

View: https://www.reddit.com/r/FinasterideSyndrome/comments/z8ya51/my_story_success_after_years_tldr_time_tongkat


New recovery with Tongkat ali playing a part. Read many good things about it too, sadly seems to be hard to get in europe these days due to new EU regulations.

After many years of stopping finasteride , my erections and seamen quality its normal , i had also stop watching porno. Loss of morning wood and mental problems remained thought.

 

[Mister]

After many years of stopping finasteride , my erections and seamen quality its normal , i had also stop watching porno. Loss of morning wood and mental problems remained thought.

How's your libido?

 

[outcast1979]

How's your libido?

My libido is great except morning wood as i stated, i respond to visually stimuli as it should , the erections are hard and the size of the flaccid is like prefin ,when i was on fin my flaccid was very shrunked like taking a cold shower.The only things that i did was quiting porn , avoid carbonated drinks like cola etc cut consumption of bread entirely.And a mastubation routine of 3 to 4 days a week, sorry if its sounds funny , those things make my sex life a lot better.Mental sides is another story that i cannot figure a way to solve the problem.

 

[ashiptowreck]

Hey guys, long time lurker, been on the PH forum since 2011, suffering from PFS for over 11 years now. I started the HCG protocol 2 weeks ago, tomorrow being my 6th dose. I am doing 250UI M/W/F. Here is my experience thus far:
I know some people have not seen benefits for weeks - I saw them after the first dose. The biggest change was that my balls started hanging lower. The first night, I couldn't believe it. I kept saying to myself "The boys are back" bc in 11 years of PFS, I had not had my balls hang like that. I also just felt a better general sense of well-being and a kind of masculine energy. This has waxed and waned over the last couple of weeks. Sometimes the testicular hang seems PFS-like, other times it is like pre-PFS, but it seems to just be on a general upward trend.
I've seen improvements in all areas (I'm someone who had ALL the PFS sides, mental, sexual, physical....) and I feel good about this protocol. I just feel like it is generally helping, while it doesn't feel like a smoking gun (though obviously early on)...
For context, I have never really tried anything of substance, just some supplements here and there, Wellbutrin for a short time years ago, etc.) This is the FIRST time that any dents have been put in my symptoms. Again, too early to tell, but this protocol is definitely doing SOMETHING. Definitely stronger erections, slightly stronger libido, but the most noticeable thing for me has been improvements in testicular and flaccid hang. (I feel so weird talking about this lol).
I will continue with updates. Best of luck, guys.

 

[Cooper]

Hey guys, long time lurker, been on the PH forum since 2011, suffering from PFS for over 11 years now. I started the HCG protocol 2 weeks ago, tomorrow being my 6th dose. I am doing 250UI M/W/F. Here is my experience thus far:
I know some people have not seen benefits for weeks - I saw them after the first dose. The biggest change was that my balls started hanging lower. The first night, I couldn't believe it. I kept saying to myself "The boys are back" bc in 11 years of PFS, I had not had my balls hang like that. I also just felt a better general sense of well-being and a kind of masculine energy. This has waxed and waned over the last couple of weeks. Sometimes the testicular hang seems PFS-like, other times it is like pre-PFS, but it seems to just be on a general upward trend.
I've seen improvements in all areas (I'm someone who had ALL the PFS sides, mental, sexual, physical....) and I feel good about this protocol. I just feel like it is generally helping, while it doesn't feel like a smoking gun (though obviously early on)...
For context, I have never really tried anything of substance, just some supplements here and there, Wellbutrin for a short time years ago, etc.) This is the FIRST time that any dents have been put in my symptoms. Again, too early to tell, but this protocol is definitely doing SOMETHING. Definitely stronger erections, slightly stronger libido, but the most noticeable thing for me has been improvements in testicular and flaccid hang. (I feel so weird talking about this lol).
I will continue with updates. Best of luck, guys.

Do you have varicocele inside your scrotum? You can check it yourself if your doc didn't do it as routine procedure. Just wondering.

 

[Kappa]

hi guys i want to try joekools protocol but im on levothyroxine. can i take both?