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Feel Alpha with this potent androgen (11-keto DHT) and dopamine (Gonadin) stack

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tallglass13

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That was my Question as well, the new formula is more of an aromatase inhibitor, and I felt less libido on it.
 

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Any negative side effects to watch out for with 11 - Keto DHT ?
 

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I guess there would be no reason to take DHEA and 11-Keto DHT together being that 11-Keto is superior and the two are redundant?
 

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Very good combo but changing 11keto dht with androsterone is far more stronger for me.
 

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Do you have normal/low E in general?
On blood work my estradiol is always around 40, so high. But I respond well to Reveratrol, and now am using it for a libido boost as needed. I think I may have PFS, but I am mostly cured now, so, Progesterone could be upregulated and locking up my estradiol. Theory. But I find estrogen to be a positive thing for me. Unless my estrogen is insensitive. Gbold had some advice that would ring true in practice, sometimes. He stated estrogen is what makes DHT sensitive. So when I use Resveratrol, my DHT works, and I get libido.
 

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what's the effect of resveratrol in this case? How much mg are you using?
 

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Very good combo but changing 11keto dht with androsterone is far more stronger for me.

I find that they're both distinct enough in their effects that one or the other could be used depending on the situation.

11-Keto basically feels like Andro without the GABA agonism. I feel very clearheaded, calm, focused, and even-keel emotionally. Andro can strongly blunt my mood at the same dose and make me less social and act a little too seriously.

Andro feels more anti-estrogen and anti-adrenaline while 11-Keto feels more anti-prolactin and anti-cortisol in a sense.
 

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I find that they're both distinct enough in their effects that one or the other could be used depending on the situation.

11-Keto basically feels like Andro without the GABA agonism. I feel very clearheaded, calm, focused, and even-keel emotionally. Andro can strongly blunt my mood at the same dose and make me less social and act a little too seriously.

Andro feels more anti-estrogen and anti-adrenaline while 11-Keto feels more anti-prolactin and anti-cortisol in a sense.
Not for me , andro feels gaba agonist yes,but in not any case could make me serious, it's the opposite, it makes me reckless,calm and playful, i say everything that passes trought my mind .
 

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@Hans thanks for this post. What did you find to be the most optimal dose both 11 keto dht & Gonadin for you and also what was the application method, internal or on skin? Thanks!
 

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I use 1 drop of 11-keto DHT on the scrotum every other day or every third day. For the gonadin, it's 2-4 drops per day orally.
Thanks, @Hans - appreciate the response. I'll be starting this by end of week and will post results. Great article on this on your website as well!
 

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