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This is one of the few things that gives me doubt that the elite are well in control of the narrative. If this entire "pandemic" and periodic viral release...ahem...I mean...mutation is deliberate and serves their goal of enriching the biggest corporations (which dominate the Dow, S&P 500 and Nasdaq) and destroying the "legacy" economy, then why would Wall Street freak out every time the "pandemic" seems to be picking up speed again? If anything, Wall Street should be rallying, right? Something is missing from the picture and I am not sure what...
I vacillate on whether or not the elite are in control with events following some kind of master plan - or whether this whole "pandemic" insanity is really just the result of a hodge-podge of human weaknesses and foibles: willful ignorance, stubborn certainty, need for control, need to belong, fear of others, and of course good old-fashioned greed. The uniformity of response across the world would seem to suggest the former; however, the latter is not necessarily precluded by this fact, given the "follow the leader" (in this case the leader being authoritarian China) mentality of bureaucrats.
 

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Bavaria tightens lockdown: border regions to Salzburg affected

The tightened lockdown regulations in several counties in the Free State of Bavaria have been in effect since Wednesday. The districts on the border with Salzburg are also affected.

Due to the out-of-control corona pandemic, Bavaria is drastically tightening its measures. All clubs, discos and bars are to close for the next three weeks, Christmas markets are not to take place this year.

Affected by these lockdowns from Thursday are now ten counties, including the regions bordering the state of Salzburg Berchtesgaden Land and Traunstein. In Berchtesgaden Land, the seven-day incidence on Tuesday was 1146.1, that in Traunstein was given as 1127.4.

The measures in detail:

Hotspot lockdown is in effect in a county until the incidence level has been below the incidence threshold of 1000 again for five consecutive days.

All facilities and events previously subject to access restrictions under 2G plus / 2G / 3G plus / 3G are closed. In particular, this means the closure of leisure, cultural and sporting events, catering, accommodation, body-related services (except hairdressers), sports and cultural venues and - with regard to their presence offerings - universities, extracurricular educational institutions and vocational training, continuing education and further training.
Wholesale and retail trade remains open, but a customer limit of one customer per 20 square meters of retail space applies.
Schools and daycare centers remain open.
Medical, therapeutic and nursing services will remain accessible as always, with no restrictions on access.
The competition and training operations of professional athletes as well as competitive athletes of the federal and state squads remain unaffected, as long as the presence of spectators is excluded and access to the sports facility is only granted to those persons who are required for the competition or training operations or for media coverage.

Badylon in Freilassing closes

In the neighboring Bavarian town of Freilassing, for example, the measures mean this: The city library, the Lokwelt, city museum and city gallery, the Badylon (with indoor swimming pool, sports hall, multigenerational facility, small field soccer field, basketball court, green area soccer field, running track) and the children and youth work have therefore temporarily closed! School sports will still be possible in the sports hall and on the outdoor facilities.
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Similar as in 1935?
 

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I always thought it would be that way, if we get to referendums the majority decides and it will be about limiting freedoms or harsh measures, generally that is what the majority votes when stressed out.
 
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I always thought it would be that way, if we get to referendums the majority decides and it will be about limiting freedoms or harsh measures, generally that is what the majority votes when stressed out.
To me this signals the end of freedom for the rest of the world.
 

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I have found a Hungarian article saying

"A woman is vaccinated with the German-American developed Pfizer-BioNTech coronavirus vaccine Comirnaty vaccine at the vaccination point of the Honvédkórház (Military) hospital in Budapest, Hungary, on 27 November 2021. The vaccination action week, which will run from 22 November to 5 December and will be extended by one week, will be open to all vaccinators without registration and without advance booking between 7 a.m. and 7 p.m. daily at 101 hospitals and specialist clinics across the country. MTI/Balogh Zoltán Identifier: DBZOL20211127025

Is there Comirnaty version on the market?
 

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I have found a Hungarian article saying

"A woman is vaccinated with the German-American developed Pfizer-BioNTech coronavirus vaccine Comirnaty vaccine at the vaccination point of the Honvédkórház (Military) hospital in Budapest, Hungary, on 27 November 2021. The vaccination action week, which will run from 22 November to 5 December and will be extended by one week, will be open to all vaccinators without registration and without advance booking between 7 a.m. and 7 p.m. daily at 101 hospitals and specialist clinics across the country. MTI/Balogh Zoltán Identifier: DBZOL20211127025

Is there Comirnaty version on the market?
Possibly. I don't know what the rules and such would be for Hungary, maybe it's officially called Comirnaty there. Many articles may call it the same in the US, but apparently, the important distinction is what is on the bottle itself. If it's in the US and says "Cormirnaty" on the label, it's the "Approved" version, and theoretically, Pfizer would have full liability (since it's not a vaccine approved for children). If it says "Pfizer/BioNTech Covid 19 Vaccine," it's the same ingredients, but the EUA version, and Pfizer is shielded from Liability. And, to make things even more confusing, if they use a "Cormirnaty" vial (assuming any exist in the US) for children under 16, or a booster, it reverts back to the EUA protection.

Of course, this violates the FDA's own rules about EUA, but they clearly don't care about their own rules or actual safety at this point.
 

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Possibly. I don't know what the rules and such would be for Hungary, maybe it's officially called Comirnaty there. Many articles may call it the same in the US, but apparently, the important distinction is what is on the bottle itself. If it's in the US and says "Cormirnaty" on the label, it's the "Approved" version, and theoretically, Pfizer would have full liability (since it's not a vaccine approved for children). If it says "Pfizer/BioNTech Covid 19 Vaccine," it's the same ingredients, but the EUA version, and Pfizer is shielded from Liability. And, to make things even more confusing, if they use a "Cormirnaty" vial (assuming any exist in the US) for children under 16, or a booster, it reverts back to the EUA protection.

Of course, this violates the FDA's own rules about EUA, but they clearly don't care about their own rules or actual safety at this point.
Thank you. There is a grown-up person during vaccination.
Article says: Unvaccinated people who are confident in their immune system can be near death
 

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Swiss back government on Covid pass as cases surge

Did you expect this?





To me this signals the end of freedom for the rest of the world.

Look guys... That votation was a stupidity. You cannot vote if creating special toilets and bus seats for black people is right. Or am I missing something? Why voting on a CRIMINAL thing is a good thing? It is not.

Besides that, the mdfkrs putted in the "No to covidpass" package also the "No to state financial aids for covid businesses that were affected" so this was flawed since the beginning. They are CRIMINALS.
 
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Look guys... That votation was a stupidity. You cannot vote if creating special toilets and bus seats for black people is right. Or am I missing something? Why voting on a CRIMINAL thing is a good thing? It is not.

Besides that, the mdfkrs putted in the "No to covidpass" package also the "No to state financial aids for covid businesses that were affected" so this was flawed since the beginning. They are CRIMINALS.
I don't understand your point, sorry
 
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I don't understand you point, sorry
No? Switzerland has voted if the covid certificate stays or is removed. That seems democratic, but it is not. Or will you find democratic to vote if we create special toilets in public places for black people? Certain things should not be voted as they are against human rights.
 
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No? Switzerland has voted if the covid certificate stays or is removed. That seems democratic, but it is not. Or will you find democratic to vote if we create special toilets in public places for black people? Certain things should not be voted as they are against human rights.
I'm against mandates/passports for all. I was hoping the Swiss would be too.
 

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I'm against mandates/passports for all. I was hoping the Swiss would be too.
I think you still don't understand my point. You cannot vote on something that it is against basic human rights, you have to take it down. Period. Voting it completely distorts the thing. You cannot vote if we are going to kill all Samoans living in Switzerland just because they are samoans. What is the point on voting that? It is against humanity, period. Same with covid pass. It is a crime, you cannot vote if a crime is legit or not.
 

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I guess his point is voting for something that shoudn't even be up for debate at all because it is inherently wrong no matter how you look at it.

The way its done in switzerland makes it seem like its a public decision with consensus creating a false sense of security indirectly. Lets forget about the majority of peole having been brainwashed for almost 2 years now. Meaning even if the majority votes for it that doesn't mean ... anything realy. Only that thoose who oppose it will have it even harder.
 

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I guess his point is voting for something that shoudn't even be up for debate at all because it is inherently wrong no matter how you look at it.

The way its done in switzerland makes it seem like its a public decision with consensus creating a false sense of security indirectly. Lets forget about the majority of peole having been brainwashed for almost 2 years now. Meaning even if the majority votes for it that doesn't mean ... anything realy. Only that thoose who oppose it will have it even harder.
Does Switzerland have a Bill of RIghts? I don't think the UK does. In the US, if a law is held unconstitutional, that overrides the majority and that law is null and void.
 
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I think you missunderstood me. Let me clarify:
1) I basically agree with you on everything you said.
2) I thought the fine was a one time thing.
3) How in hell are you going to avoid this without paying the fine? Flying away to... where?
4) Given the option to get a loan to pay 3600 bucks (which, again, is not the end of the world if you life is at stake) is much cheaper than having to emigrate to... where? Vietnam? Nigeria? This will arrive everywhere in the wesr. It is a matter of time.

If there isn't an uprising to make ourselves a part of them it is time to learn some hunting and water purifying skills.
 
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