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EXCLUSIVE: Evidence Shows Director General Of WHO Overstated The Fatality Rate Of The Coronavirus

Discussion in 'Breaking News' started by charlie, Mar 17, 2020.

  1. RealNeat

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    agreed. Ill keep investigating but this whole things stinks of intentional or unintentional fabrication.
     
  2. RealNeat

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    this doesn't seem to be about "knowingly sick" people... the unknowingly "sick" people are being restricted. Restrict the high risk and let society run, which in return will provide better care for the compromised.
     
  3. milkbasedvegan

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    I’m not sure this will cause depression and suicides in the short run. Even in the long run. People are going to get money / minimal universal income, **** like rabbits via tinder and such, not commute for hours on end to a job they despise, serotoninergic food surplus will be dumped unto everybody living in that communist state and sheeple will be happy and dumbed down just like in the movie Idiocracy

    i for one don’t miss working.
     
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    @Wagner83 @Opioidus
    Bangkok Cocktail was Liponavir+Ritonavir,and additionally Oseltamivir.
    If you guys can choose,Liponavir+Ritonavir would be my prefered medication.
    Hang In there & keep us posted!
     
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    They’ve also referred to it as the “Wayne Gretzky” situation multiple times where you don’t skate to where the puck is but where it will be. It’s laughable. CNN literally has a running title that says 7000 cases in the US while talking about automobile manufacturing shutting down and global pandemic in big red letters.
     
  6. milkbasedvegan

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    absolutely. Build a home gym. There will be no shortage of grain fed meat, rice, potatoes.
     
  7. tankasnowgod

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    Look, it's going to vary. Some might enjoy this, or make the best of the situation. Some are working from home, and might even get a bit of a financial boost from this (not paying for gas and such). Not everyone hates their job, in my experience, few do. Most have issues with their job, but they are also missing out on friendships or side benefits the job creates. Not to mention contractors, waitresses, bartenders and such, along with other part timers. They might lose thousands, even tens of thousands of dollars, because of this (maybe more due to lingering effects after official lockdowns end), and a tiny check from the government won't offset this. I've already seen some layoffs in my company (although, those were to be expected soon), but the timing is horrid for those affected.
     
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    My fear is that Trump may not want to un-declare the state of emergency in time for our Presidential election. Power corrupts and Trump has been pushing the envelope for absolute powers and immunities. Does this state of emergency have a definite term?
     
  9. Kram

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    You seem to be an expert on infectious disease so would love your take on the below:

    Sick staff fueled coronavirus outbreak in Seattle nursing homes
    "Staff members who worked while sick at multiple long-term care facilities contributed to the spread of COVID-19 among vulnerable elderly in the Seattle area, federal health officials said Wednesday. At least 30 coronavirus deaths have been linked to Life Care Center in Kirkland. A report Wednesday from the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention provided the most detailed account to date of what drove the outbreak."

    U.S. virus plan anticipates 18-month pandemic and widespread shortages
    "A federal government plan to combat the coronavirus warned policymakers last week that a pandemic “will last 18 months or longer” and could include “multiple waves,” resulting in widespread shortages that would strain consumers and the nation’s health care system. “Shortages of products may occur, impacting health care, emergency services, and other elements of critical infrastructure,” the plan warned. “This includes potentially critical shortages of diagnostics, medical supplies (including PPE and pharmaceuticals), and staffing in some locations.” PPE refers to personal protective equipment."
     
  10. S.Seneff

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    Hi

    tankasnowgod : how did you discard the fatality fage from South Korea given the high number of tests that they have done ?
     
  11. Vladimir Erfán

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    South koreans used cloroquine (malaria medication), zinc and azithromycin. Their death rates are considerably lower than other countries and they supposedly did a lot of testing, so the low death rate can't be due to low detection rates.
     
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    Why are you worried about this State of Emergency ending? None of the other ones ever have. In fact, the Reconstruction Acts have never been repealed. We are technically still under Marshall Law.

    EDIT- The Reconstruction Acts part was correct, but I was a bit off on State of Emergencies. Several of them have ended, but many are still in effect. List of national emergencies in the United States - Wikipedia

    Trump has declared 6, all 6 still in effect.
    Obama declared 11, 9 of which are still in effect.
    Bush Jr. holds the current record, with 11 still in effect.
    Clinton has 6 still in effect, equaling Trump.
    And Carter still has 1 in effect.

    I think Trump will most certainly end this before the elections (I doubt he's pushing for any long term shutdown), and he is looking at a pretty big time win. Both Biden and Sanders are weak candidates, and neither can draw the types of numbers Trump can at a rally. The Primary Model (which is based on Primary Voting) pretty confidently picked Trump (and note, if anything, he is concerned that the disruptions over the Corona Virus could negatively impact Trump)-

    The Primary Model

    Also of note, while Trump did declare a "State of Emergency" and did a heel turn (in my view) by endorsing these massive shutdowns, he didn't really start this. Governors and Mayors all over the nation started it, along with mass cancellations by orgs like MLB and NCAA.

    Previous to the heel turn, Trump raised the same concerns about over reacting to the news, pointing the Seasons Flu numbers and the official COVID 19 numbers.
     
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    Human mastery of global geological engineering would be a pretty epic feat.

    I have been hearing that many people can carry the various without symptoms and then transfer it, is this not true?
     
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    I don't know if I'm really an expert (don't really claim to be), but here is my take-

    This is a nursing home. By definition, the patients there are old and sick. If COVID 19 did spread at a nursing home, I would be beyond shocked if it were the first virus to do so. I don't know how big it is, but regardless, I'm sure all 30 of those patients had other diseases and conditions. Labeling cause of death "Coronavirus" is dishonest, to say the least. It's quite possible that it may have helped accelerate their demise, but in no way would it have been the sole cause, if any.

    The only thing that I can gather is that maybe the nursing home needs better protocols to prevent sick workers from infecting chronically sick patients. This would be a good standard of care at all times in such a facility.

    First off, this story misrepresents that plan itself. You can find it here- https://int.nyt.com/data/documenthe...-plan/d367f758bec47cad361f/optimized/full.pdf

    Those quotes come from a section labeled "Assumptions"

    In context, it reads like this-

    "In the absence of facts, planning assumptions represent information deemed true. They are necessary to facilitate planning development efforts. Assumptions set a baseline for planning purposes and do not take the place of specific activities or decision points that will occur during a COVID-19 outbreak. The following planning assumptions assisted in the development of an operational environment for this plan.
    1. Universal susceptibility and exposure will significantly degrade the time lines and efficiency of response efforts.
    2 . A pandemic will last 18 months or longer and could include multiple waves of illness.
    3. The spread and severity of COVID -19 will be difficult to forecast and characterize."

    There are further assumptions you can read directly in the plan. It does not state that it WILL last 18 months or longer, and certainly didn't "warn" or "anticipate" that, like the article claims it did. It assumed that for planning purposes only.

    And even if the plan did warn or anticipate those things, as the article claimed, it still doesn't mean they would come to pass.
     
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    Thanks for responding. I guess my point is that many people (especially in today's world) have pre-existing conditions and are already sick so while covid-19 may not be the ultimate cause of death, it certainly seems to be a tipping point in many cases and so should not be taken lightly. 30 deaths in one nursing home in this short amount of time is alarming and it's clear its highly contagious so precautions (avoiding contact with others) is probably necessary.

    The government just announced that the stimulus package in response to covid-19 is bigger than the 2008 financial crisis so not sure how you can that this won't put strain on the healthcare system, planning assumptions aside
     
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    I’m positive that the end goal is to have total control over the population of any country and have a system in place just like in China.

    1) dramatically exaggerate a pandemic. Reddit and the likes heavily moderated to promote officials’ message
    2) curfew everywhere, mass anxiety, hatred of non abiding citizens
    3) wait for a few weeks or months while everybody’s mental health gets increasingly worse due to loneliness and lack of funds
    4) majority wants to get out
    5) Chinese people can get out but they’re tracked so that everyone knows who is “positive for the virus” and where they are at any given time. People may start being willing to give up privacy for freedom to go out and about
    6) majority is fine with being tracked 24/7 as a “preventative” way to avoid contagion
    7) full control of populations
     
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    I noticed in January that the people in the hospital where I work seemed to be having notably worse respiratory problems this year. We just got the ability to test for corona last week but I suspect it’s been around for at least a couple months. The hospital has already opened up a previously closed unit to use exclusively for corona patients. I’ve also been asked to increase my hours and that’s never happened in over 20 years. I don’t like how the media is handling this but it does seem fairly serious.
     
  18. tankasnowgod

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    It wasn't a single nursing home, those 30 deaths referred to at least two different places, and I don't know what time frame you think it was, but those deaths occurred over a month and a half. And yeah, many people in this world may have some pre-existing condition, but most people aren't so serious that they are in nursing homes. They really are a last resort. You put a family member in hospice if you expect them to live days or weeks. You put them in a nursing home if you expect them to live a couple months to about a year.

    No clue why you think a stimulus package would have any relation to something putting a "strain" on the healthcare system.

    The economy has already suffered a direct attack from the response to shut everything down. If anything, the size would be in response to that.
     
  19. milkbasedvegan

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    well, it will all work better if there is actually something that makes pneumonia worse.

    if that isn’t disturbing to y’all I don’t know what is.

    I’m Bill Gates, co-chair of the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation. AMA about COVID-19. : Coronavirus

    even redditors in there can see what’s up. China isn’t the problem, China is the solution
     
  20. tankasnowgod

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    It may be an end goal (and I think it's actually a world goal, not a nation), but I doubt they would push all their chips in on a single event. Especially in the gun-havingest country on the planet. If anything, there would be a series of these, likely spread out over years/decades. If you read about the World Revolutionary Movement, they are slow and methodical, and have been working toward this goal for 250 years. I think they would be fine working toward it for another 50 or 100 years. I don't think they would suddenly panic and try to do this after only a single event.
     
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