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Excess Thyroid Increases Estrogen?

Discussion in 'Scientific Studies' started by docall18, Feb 4, 2016.

  1. Joeyd

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    What's the science behind this? Why does t3 increase estrogen?
     
  2. superhuman

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    @tca300 When you take T3 and divide it in water like you did with tsp, so you could get 1 mcg etc. Have you also tried it with the new Tyronene which consists of SFA ester and ethanol ? if so did it work the same? or have you only done it with the DMSO version ?

    Did you try TyroMix or T3/T4 combinations earlier and how did that go? i felt i remember you taking about that T4 did not resolve anything for you and make it worse, no matter the dose?
     
  3. tca300

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    @superhuman I don't own the new SFA ester product, so I have no clue. I agree with Ray and for me T4 needs to be with T3, but sometimes using T3 during the day and then a t3/t4 before bed seems to work good.
     
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    Great. Did you try 1 drop (8mcg) drop with meals any time? was that to much? i will do the 3 drops TyroMix before bed then and use T3 only during the day. Just have to figure out dosage and or frequency
     
  5. Joeyd

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    Exactly the problem I have. T3 raises my estrogen
     
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    I've tried DHT. It's great for some things but the anti estrogen effect just isn't there, for me at least
     
  7. Joeyd

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    Why does haidut use a ratio of 2:1 instead of the 4:1 that ray recommends.

    I definitely suffer from this T3 raising estrogen issue. But I've found with sufficient T4, it can actually have an anti estrogen effect.

    I just don't understand the science of why T3 alone is Estrogenic, whilst T4+T3 can help lower Estrogen
     
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    Ya i find a T4:T3 ratio of around 7:1 seems to be working better for me. Taking NDT or cynoplus (4:1 ratio) gave me good T3 labs but low T4 labs.

    I think having low T4 maybe raises adrenaline, and thus estrogen & cortisol.
     
  9. Joeyd

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    ok that's really interesting. So which product do you use to get that ratio?

    @dookie, @Vida , @RKIII, have you experimented with a higher ratio of T4 and T3, I think it might be the best option for those of us who are estrogen inclined
     
  10. Mauritio

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    Interesting!
    Then Antibiotics, Charcoal and so on might restore liver function and improve thyroid tolerance...And in this light it would also make sense that some people can only successfully use thyroid when they have gotten rid of their endotoxin problem!
     
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