EstroBan - Dietary Supplement With Vitamins K2, A, D, E

Discussion in 'IdeaLabs' started by haidut, Jan 24, 2014.

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Would you buy custom, liquid suplement with the 4 fat-soluble vitamins (K2, A, D, E)?

  1. No

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  2. Only if it costs less than $50 for 30 days supply

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  3. Only if it costs less than $40 for 30 days supply

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  4. Only if it costs less than $30 for 30 days supply

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  5. Only if it costs less than $20 for 30 days supply

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  6. Only if it costs less than $10 for 30 days supply

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  1. Black Ops

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    I'm currently having trouble getting the drops out of my estroban. I need to apply a significant amount of pressure for one drop . Is there any way to remedy this issue?
     
  2. EIRE24

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    What does the rest of your diet look like?
     
  3. Obi-wan

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    Breakfast: Fruit, OJ, Milk Supps: Panquinone, Energin, Estroban, extra B1, Aspirin, Niacinamide, Tocovit, Retinil, Progesterone, Coffee
    Lunch: Sandwich or pizza, etc
    Late afternoon: B1, Niacinamide, Aspirin, Caffeine tablet, Oxidal
    Dinner: Meat or fish, salad, starch
    After dinner: ice cream
    Before bed: Casein protein shake ,Kuinone, Lapodin, Retinil, Progesterone, Oxidal

    Intermittent: Mitolipin, Diamont

    I do a lot of Idea Lab stuff
     
  4. EIRE24

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    very good, do you track calories?
     
  5. Obi-wan

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    No, I do weigh myself everyday and look at visual appearance in the mirror. Exercise 45 minutes with weights 2 to 3 times a week and do weekly outside work like mowing the lawn, etc. I am 60 years old by the way. The supplements give me amazing energy. Panquinone is unbelievable for all day energy and not getting sore or tired after exercise. The Oxidal, B1, Niacinamide, Aspirin, Caffeine stack is great for late afternoons
     
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    Use a paperclip and push through then the drops come out easy
     
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    If you warm up the bottle before using it should resolve the issue. Pushing through the dropper with a paperclip or needle also resolves it. I think some bottles have a narrower base of the dropper and if the liquid gets even a tiny bit more viscous this is what happens.
     
  8. Frankdee20

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    Would these compete if taken at the same time ? The only thing comparable is Davinci labs A D K
     
  9. Frankdee20

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    He once mentioned Thorne Liquid K as being expensive but good
     
  10. Wagner83

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    Is this now 1000 IU D3 as the image on your site suggests or 2000 IU D3 as the first pages of this thread suggest? Not sure if you modified the OP or if the OP was the first idea which you then changed.
     
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    It is 2,000 IU D3 per 8 drops. I need to change the images on the website.
     
  12. Wagner83

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    Why did you doubled the D3 dose compared to the other vitamins if I may ask?
     
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    Because some studies showed no change in blood levels of vitamin D3 from doses of under 2,000 IU daily. Peat also said optimal dose for supplementation is probably in the 2,000 - 3,000 range.
     
  14. Owen B

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    So far I'm into my second bottle.

    The first i used topically on my arms and although i can't tell if it was helping i also didn't notice any kind of well-being boost.

    So, with the second bottle i used 3-4 drops in a gel cap and the results were amazing. Almost immediately i felt energized, warm and sociable. but i found that if i took it for about 3 or 4 days in a row, i started feeling very relaxed. it's a nice relaxation, very delicious but it was really too relaxed - like it was unconnected to the energy side. So i'm trying to find a rhythm with it.

    And I'm wondering what caused that psychological lift. Was it the synergy of the four vits? The oral use? Or was it the K2?

    If it was the K2, I'll have to check out Haidut's K-2 sometime. I'll be looking at that thread.

    Then i started using Gonadin on my rat and the Estroban effects seemed to disappear. But then the Gonadin didn't seem to work well on my rat until i had some Estroban in the system. Apparently, the two work well together as others have noted on that thread.

    The Estroban is pretty nice stuff and i personally don't find the price bad at all. i usually don't take things at recommended dosages, so these products last a while for me. Haidut's prices are all very reasonable as far as I'm concerned.
     
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    Was there any talk of changing the Vitamin E in this? Recently I realized how different TocoVit is from every other Vitamin E supplement I've tried. Until I deduce causality my conclusion is to only get Vitamin E from food at TocoVit.
     
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    What's the explanation for this? Doesn't Progest-E use a relatively common form of Vitamin E? Many people have reported bad reactions to Vitamin E, and I haven't seen any convincing explanations. I had the same as you when I tried Unique-E and it was one of the worst supplement reactions I've ever had!
     
  17. Owen B

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    I went on this kick with oral Estroban because I noticed it gave a nice mood. But I'm noticing that my libido is totally blitzed out, nil, nada.

    Can the AI effect be so strong as to do this?

    I'm not taking anything else. I had given my rat some Gonadin but only a few times. It did not seem to cut into this zeroed out libido.
     
  18. Frankdee20

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    Maybe a degree of Estrogen is needed for male libido, these fat solubles, and other things are very strong
     
  19. Waynish

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    Anecdote: I've taken quite a bit with no effects on libido.
     
  20. Wagner83

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    Do you still get monring wood and night erections?
     
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