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I saw a report where the Danish exported all their butter for the war effort, and in place of butter usee other oils. The children developed blindness. I was recalling that the amount of unsat in Coconut oil is negligible, and the amount of butter a person eats really doesn't get them much linoleic or linoleic. I think its a huge problem, people are likely deficient in these fats and don't even realize it.
That has nothing to do with so called "EFA Deficiency." If anything, it shows the importance of the vitamins in butter, or the problems with seed oils, which are likely high PUFA.
It's about 3-4% in both. Certainly not "negligible," and they had to eliminate both in the William Brown experiment to get to "EFA Deficiency." Even then, they report several health benefits for the 6 months Brown ate the diet.
Well, then what are you even doing on the Ray Peat Forum in the first place? Clearly, you don't even agree with some of Peat's basic ideas.
Whoa whoa, I only asked a legit question. I think it is good for ppl these days, given all the stresses already out there, to maybe consider to be a little less confrontational, as in, refrain from "Why are you here in the first place?" type. Ray Peat, PhD is ok, but certainly not the only source of thoughts, theories, etc. and scores of thousands of really great clinician MD's have made contributions in this area. I think it is reckless to believe that all polyunsatures are "bad". I have many reasons for this belief, one being only the delta-lactones of the c-20 to c24 unsat moieties, which several clinicians have reported on their carcinolytic activities against common breast and lung cell lines in the literature, as but one example. Send me a check and I'll write a short book.
Are you unironically implying the Danes, due to a lack of resources, sold all their butter, imported coconut oil from the tropics during war time, and this caused blindness, something that it does not seem to occur in cultures that eat mostly coconut oil? And then you argue that modern people are PUFA deficient while eatin more PUFA than anyone in history? How are you not a troll?
Hit the ignore button twice, just to make sure. Thanks for your replies, have a good weekend and best of luck to you !Look darling, I answered your question above. I stated plainly that, in order to induce so called "EFA Deficiency" in a human, William Brown had to go on a virtually fat free diet for several months, and even eliminate things like Orange Juice, which can contain about 0.1 gram of PUFA per cup itself.
I then posted a graph showing that PUFA intake has risen from about 12 grams in 1906, to over 35+ in 2005 (and likely higher today). This is why I think your question is ludicrous. People are eating more Arachidonic Acid than at any point before in recorded history. There is simply no way "deficiency" is a problem, unless you are anorexic, or following a super low fat diet for extended periods of time, even assuming that AA is "essential."
Not to mention Peat's article above would answer any serious question you have about it. As would Haidut's PUFA summary-
Haidut's Summary Of PUFA
I thought this deserved it's own thread. https://raypeatforum.com/forums/posts/86912/ OK, I will just summarize what I have seen/read and combine with what I have gotten from Peat. 1. The argument for PUFA being essential is not only wrong, it is misguided. While Peat does cite an old study, I...raypeatforum.com
Since you aren't even willing to comment on Peat's stance, I think it's best I hit the ignore button at this point.
No I think he meant that butter was sent to the soldiers and the civillians used various types of other oils like rapeseed or sunflower etc.
Bingo, the children were deprived of the butter. It was during WWI. Sometimes I think the factor X of Price isn't the K. vits., but is actually Vit. F..... !
