Erectile Dysfunction: Porn And Masturbation

[Mateuscm]

Nofap is for low T, low energy males. It was popularized by such men. But still don't watch porn anyway.
Highly sexual, high T men don't have a porn problem because they get sex more easily.

I agree, since I increased my androgens, I can relapse and still feel confident.

 

[meatbag]

Thou hast a lap full of seed,
And this is a fin country.
Why dost thou not cast thy seed
And live in it merrily?

Shall I Cast it on the sand
And turn it into fruitful land?
For on no other ground
Can I sow my seed
Without tearing up
Some stinking weed

 

[Energizer]

I've finally got around to finishing part 5 of the erectile dysfunction article series.

Part 5: Erectile dysfunction Part 5: Porn and Masturbation » MenElite

Hope you enjoy and let me know your thoughts.

My main gripe is the article is demonizing masturbation and porn, almost as if it's a religious screed, that isn't helping, imo. Plenty of men jerk off and watch porn and lead normal lives with girlfriends and wives. Women also masturbate with porn, by some accounts, even more than men. Men need to take responsibility for the roots of their "addiction" instead of blaming every personal failure or health problem on porn. From personal experience, porn and masturbation have never had a negative impact on my romantic relationships or my erections. Probably the most negative thing about porn and masturbation comes from the projection of other people trying to shame others and use their perceived moral righteousness on anyone who dares indulge themselves in such a way and control their behavior. Religious Puritans want everyone to live their way or the highway.

Abstinence sows sand all over
The ruddy limbs & flaming hair
But Desire Gratified
Plants fruits & beauty there.

 

[rei]

Use it or lose it.

Nofap is a joke. If you start leaking semen in your dreams because you have deliberately let things back up you are a prime example of someone brainwashed to hurt themselves. Not even apes are this stupid. And no, if you don't have wet dreams once you reach 4 months of abstinence it does not mean you successfully detoxed. It means your reproductive system atrophied.

Almost no-one has erection problems. They have problems in understanding when an erection is supposed to happen. You can lie to yourself but not to your subconscious. And guess which one of you decides the blood flow patterns?

 

[MatheusPN]

Use it or lose it.

Nofap is a joke. If you start leaking semen in your dreams because you have deliberately let things back up you are a prime example of someone brainwashed to hurt themselves. Not even apes are this stupid. And no, if you don't have wet dreams once you reach 4 months of abstinence it does not mean you successfully detoxed. It means your reproductive system atrophied.

Almost no-one has erection problems. They have problems in understanding when an erection is supposed to happen. You can lie to yourself but not to your subconscious. And guess which one of you decides the blood flow patterns?

You're assuming so many things poorly. I for one, am not religious, don't know about this "Nofap" culture.
Poorly because maybe: the person doesn't ejaculate because he prefers to ejaculate preferentially with his wife, sometimes he prefers to masturbate without ejaculation, he wants to experiment or he wasn't wanting to masturbate.
I agree with @Energizer "My main gripe is the article is demonizing masturbation and porn". Probably and by my experience, one can use them in a positive way. Maybe Hans was proposing the best scenario

 

[Hans]

My main gripe is the article is demonizing masturbation and porn, almost as if it's a religious screed, that isn't helping, imo.

It has nothing to do with religion, it's just based on science and the experience of countless others. I'm not trying to tell anyone to stop, I'm merely presenting the science. Everyone can do with it what they want and can see from the research that it has the potential to cause issues in life and relationships as well as contribute to sexual issues, such as ED.

Plenty of men jerk off and watch porn and lead normal lives with girlfriends and wives.

How do you know it's normal? What is normal? It's definitely not the same "normal" as 30< years ago. Domestic violence has also become pretty "normal" in most countries, just like bouncing from one relationship to the next, divorcing, and eating junk food on a regular basis. All of this has become normal but that doesn't mean it's a healthy way of living.

Men need to take responsibility for the roots of their "addiction" instead of blaming every personal failure or health problem on porn.

I don't know of any men that blame their life failures or health problems on porn. In my experience and that of so many other men, porn and masturbation had a negative effect on their lives and they realized this after quitting.

From personal experience, porn and masturbation have never had a negative impact on my romantic relationships or my erections.

Good for you but if you don't mind me asking, how old are you and how long was your longest relationship? ...Just because it's not an issue for you doesn't mean that it won't become one or that others don't/won't suffer from it. Research shows that a large percentage of studied individuals that watch porn and masturbate suffer from ED. Not everyone, but a fast-rising percentage. And just because individuals weren't tested positive for ED at the time doesn't mean they didn't suffer from it a few years or so after. When a man suffers from ED all depends on a number of factors, such as from what age he started watching porn and masturbating, how frequently he masturbates, etc.

Probably the most negative thing about porn and masturbation comes from the projection of other people trying to shame others and use their perceived moral righteousness on anyone who dares indulge themselves in such a way and control their behavior. Religious Puritans want everyone to live their way or the highway.

The point of this article wasn't to shame anyone or be religious. I address porn and masturbation as any other root cause of health issues. Research found that most women (that were questioned for research purposes), regardless of their religion, said they didn't approve of their men watching porn or masturbating and they viewed it equal to having their men cheat on them with a real woman. Porn is a major reason for divorce amongst couples (roughly 50% mentioned it as one of the reasons why they wanted to get a divorce), regardless of religion.

 

[Energizer]

It has nothing to do with religion, it's just based on science and the experience of countless others. I'm not trying to tell anyone to stop, I'm merely presenting the science. Everyone can do with it what they want and can see from the research that it has the potential to cause issues in life and relationships as well as contribute to sexual issues, such as ED.

How do you know it's normal? What is normal? It's definitely not the same "normal" as 30< years ago. Domestic violence has also become pretty "normal" in most countries, just like bouncing from one relationship to the next, divorcing, and eating junk food on a regular basis. All of this has become normal but that doesn't mean it's a healthy way of living.

I don't know of any men that blame their life failures or health problems on porn. In my experience and that of so many other men, porn and masturbation had a negative effect on their lives and they realized this after quitting.

Good for you but if you don't mind me asking, how old are you and how long was your longest relationship? ...Just because it's not an issue for you doesn't mean that it won't become one or that others don't/won't suffer from it. Research shows that a large percentage of studied individuals that watch porn and masturbate suffer from ED. Not everyone, but a fast-rising percentage. And just because individuals weren't tested positive for ED at the time doesn't mean they didn't suffer from it a few years or so after. When a man suffers from ED all depends on a number of factors, such as from what age he started watching porn and masturbating, how frequently he masturbates, etc.

The point of this article wasn't to shame anyone or be religious. I address porn and masturbation as any other root cause of health issues. Research found that most women (that were questioned for research purposes), regardless of their religion, said they didn't approve of their men watching porn or masturbating and they viewed it equal to having their men cheat on them with a real woman. Porn is a major reason for divorce amongst couples (roughly 50% mentioned it as one of the reasons why they wanted to get a divorce), regardless of religion.

My main point was, I thought the article could use more balance in perspectives. The rest of the articles in the series were more balanced and didn't seem to have an agenda. Take that for whatever it's worth I guess.

 

[HealthisWealth]

It's easy to understand from his perspective. Pornography really is distasteful when compared to real sex, at the least the type of integral, life-altering sex William Reich describes. To substitute images and artificial stimulation for the real thing must have been a huge no-no for him, seeing how he viewed sexual interactions and responses as vital to the human experience. One factor which has been overlooked is how much the progressive decline in metabolic rate and function has also affected the sexual response of so many people, to the point where they can't experience what good sex really is, and therefore resort to porn to satisfy their transient residual sexual needs. Ray has mentioned a few times how thyroid supplementation could allow certain women to experience orgasms, whereas before sex had been a somewhat unsatisfying experience for them. He also talked about masturbation to pornography as a type of stimulation focused on the groin, as opposed to the full-body and mind experience of sex (high metabolic rate probably a necessary condition for this to be true). The millennial generation (and now Z?) with their impaired state of health and being the first generations to be exposed to easy-access pornography, has probably negatively altered their sexual response to the opposite sex, although this is probably not as bad in women.

Interesting...

 

[Ray To Go]

There's no panic anyway. Girls don't like guys for their erections. They like them for their sweetness and niceness.

 

[mrchibbs]

There's no panic anyway. Girls don't like guys for their erections. They like them for their sweetness and niceness.

Well they may very well like a guys who are sweet and have strong erections.

 

[Ray To Go]

Well they may very well like a guys who are sweet and have strong erections.

Haha, we'll just keep it at may.

 

[Ray To Go]

Well they may very well like a guys who are sweet and have strong erections.

You weren't askin' your girlfriend may you like this strong erection last Saturday were ya?

 

[Hans]

I came across this reddit post and thought that this part was very well said and relevant to this thread.

I quote:
"Now the part most of you guys will be interest in. The woman attraction thing. There is nothing more controversial than this topic and I foreshadow that I neither know the answer. I always used to be the needy nice guy. Probably because of my low self-esteem. I always viewed women like something god-like. Like they were somehow above me. Ask yourself what you are actually watching on a screen/TV. Mostly things that are out of your range or things that you admire. So every time you are watching women on a screen you are essentially saying ‘I worship them so much, that I have to watch them on a screen. I am theirs and they control me.’ This creates this sense of lack and not good enough in yourself which basically makes you a slave to them. This is absolutely unattractive in real life, because nobody wants to fill another persons feelings of lack. I honestly have to laugh at myself what a needy weak b**** I used to be. I couldn’t care less if a woman doesn’t reply or doesn’t look at me."

 

[Vileplume]

Great article. The severity of porn addiction in our modern world is understated. Not only does it contribute to ED, but it leads to hair loss and hypothyroidism. There are several accounts of this in the NoFap reddit for anyone who has time to scour the huge collection of anecdotal evidence. In my experience, pornography and masturbation leads to acute itching of the scalp and cold sensations of the body.

On a related note, is anyone familiar with the works of Wilhelm Reich on the function of the orgasm? He has several things to say about the orgasm of an individual, but not as much to say about pornography. In fact, he quickly dismisses pornography as distasteful.

Wilhelm Reich often proclaims the benefits of loving romance—not necessarily marriage or committed romance, but a sincere love and feelings of empathy and appreciation for the person, that you express through sex and orgasm.

Since he was writing back in the 50s, 60s, and 70s, porn was not nearly as extensive in his time (maybe just magazines). Still, I get the feeling he would not approve of porn because there’s no shared love—it’s a solitary sexual act, which robs sex of it’s deep meaning.

 

[Vileplume]

I totally agree. Masturbation to pornography seems to have more energy fixation on the mind - on an idea or mental projection - that takes away from the feelings of one's own body. This limits the orgastic potency of the individual. As Reich puts it, "Orgastic potency is the capacity to surrender to the flow of biological energy, free from any inhibitions; the capacity to discharge completely the damned-up sexual excitation through involuntary, pleasurable convulsions of the body. Not a single neurotic is orgastically potent, and the character structures of the overwhelming majority of men and women are neuoritic" (102, Function of the Orgasm).

Wow. Powerful quotations. Thanks for posting them.

 

[seraph94]

Nofap is for low T, low energy males. It was popularized by such men. But still don't watch porn anyway.
Highly sexual, high T men don't have a porn problem because they get sex more easily.

I never had low T problem, but always struggled with relationships. For me the reason was psychological which was imposed to me by my family/relatives and society I used to live in.
I am 27 and lastly had T reading of 919 where normal range was written as between 236 and 840.

 

[ddjd]

View: https://x.com/NutriDetect/status/1751651048794489303?s=20

 

[HealthisWealth]

Keep them coming

 

[peter88]

View: https://x.com/NutriDetect/status/1751651048794489303?s=20

Garret “ZOG” Smith