Makrosky said:post 115186Makrosky said:haidut said:post 115130Amazoniac said:post 114648haidut, we can argue in favor of all B vits to include in a supplement. However, unlike with b5, there are well known reasons why not supplement with b9 and b12. I wonder if there's a reason why not include b5..?haidut said:Amazoniac said:post 114255 haidut, I read on TMZ that in 2016 your Energin will contain pantothenic acid; can you confirm this?
What is TMZ? Not sure who quotes me but until I see some more solid research on effects of exogenous supplementation of pantothenic acid, folid acid and vitamin B12 I have no plans to include these 3 vitamins.
I has been shown to boost cortisol production even in healthy people. Also, I don't think it affects directly mitochondrial health like B1, B2, and B3. I may include it at some point in the future but I need to convince myself of its merits first and so far the evidence for it is not strong, in marked contrast to the B1, B2, B3, B6, and biotin group.
For me the current Energin formula works very good. 3 doses so far. Provides a clean energy non maniac like the one I get from other commercial b-complex produc
ts.
Simple things work better and I like your conservative hipocratic approach of "first not harm".
Btw Ray mentions B5 favorably in Nutrition for Women. Can't remember the context though. If anyone is interested I can copypaste the paragraphs.
Yeah, I think he talked about it in context of women recovering from "carcinoma in situ". However, since then he has not written much about it and people who asked him directly in an email either did not get a response or got "no interest" reply just like the one he gave about PQQ.
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