Energin - Custom, Liquid Dietary Supplement With B Vitamins

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  1. aquaman

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    Re: Energin - custom, liquid dietary supplement with B vitam

    Would it be absorbed on ankles?
     
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    Also do you have any advice on the timing of taking your 3 supplements?
     
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    Re: Energin - custom, liquid dietary supplement with B vitam

    Want to say I got a great energy boost from Energin, too. I just got my second bottle, and ordered all three Idealabs products for my sister.

    FWIW, coffee with cream and sugar masks the taste pretty well for me. I usually use the last swigs from my first cup of coffee for half the days dose, do the other half later in the day.
     
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    I can not say I experienced an energy boost from Energin, but I was drinking a lot of alcohol during the period I was taking it. My hangovers were much less severe to non-existent, which I guess is a type of boost in energy even if I wasn't feeling energetic compared to my non-alcoholic self. I would recommend taking Energin if you decide to booze it up.
     
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    Re: Energin - custom, liquid dietary supplement with B vitam

    I would say each one is a different tool for helping address the underlying hypothyroidism issues. EstroBan should probably be taken whenever ones has exposure to PUFAs or suspects estrogen overload. StressNon tends to be helpful in cases where chronic stress exhausts the brain and the protective neurosteroids, which also happen to boost metabolism as well. Pregnenoone is also an activator of cytochrome P450, which is one of the main detoxifying pathways in the organism. Energin would assist in converting sugar into T3 and CO2, as well as detoxifying the liver from poisons like alcohol, estrogen, heavy metals, etc. So, I don't think I have a recommended schedule but rather take as needed based on activity and metabolic state. If eating out, I'd take EstroBan. If drinking, I'd take Energin. If under chronic (unescapable) stress I'd take StressNon.
    I hope that makes sense.
     
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    It should be absorbed wherever there is contact with skin, which I think is everywhere except the eyeballs and nails:):
     
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    Re: Energin - custom, liquid dietary supplement with B vitam

    Thanks, I am glad it is helping.
     
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    I'd second that. Vitamin B1 and B3 are especially important in helping metabolize alcohol and prevent oxidative damage to the brain and liver from heavy drinking. Also, the lower the PUFA stores in the body the less damage alcohol does.
     
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    Just wanted to add that vitamin B1 and B2 are crucial for the ability of the liver to excrete estrogen. So, for people trying to lower estrogen, using Energin with EstroBan may have synergistic effects. Has anybody done blood work before/after using each supplement?
     
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    Haidut - Does Energin contain B7 (biotin)? The amounts of each vitamin per serving size appear to be missing from the Energin product page on the website.

    If B7 is not in there, do you plan on adding it based on your recent post about it improving glucose control?
     
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    From the data sheet that comes with it:

    B1 (Thiamine HCL) 50mg
    B2 (Riboflavin 5' Phosphate) 15mg
    B3 (Niacinamide) 100mg
    B6 (Pyridoxine 5' Phosphate) 6mg
    B7 (Biotin) 1mg

    Distilled water and 20% ethanol solution, can be applied topically/dermally as well as orally.

    I talked to my sister last night and she liked it, and the ADEK.
     
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    Biotin is in there, it is a very important vitamin. Some people did report lower blood glucose after taking Energin for a while so it seems to be helping with that.
     
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    haidut - How come energin does not include things such as B5 and B12?
     
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    Poor solubility and not much effect on mitochondrial health, estrogen detoxification or lactate/CO2. Also, Ray has written individually about each vitamin in Energin and has more or less sanctioned supplementation.
     
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    This will be perfect to go along with estroban, can't wait to try it :)
     
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    Yep, in one interview Ray said that the B vitamins and the fat soluble vitamins are very good ways to reduce tissue estrogen. They complement each other quite well. In addition, the K vitamin in EstroBan plus the B vitamins in Energin are very helpful for the liver.
     
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    Hey Haidut, my latest full batch of Energin, the powder (assuming this is the B-vitamins?) has settled out at the bottom into white crystals clumped together (left for a week in the fridge when I went on vacation), and despite shaking and shaking, they don't disperse.

    Anything I can do? I'm assuming these are the active ingredients so I'll be missing out on them if they are in crystals at the bottom.
     
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    In the future, I would not keep in the fridge since the ingredients precipitate at lower temperatures. Just keep it in dark location to avoid sunlight affecting vitamin B2. One thing you can do is pour the liquid and crystals into a bowl or cup and heat to about 50-60 degree C. This should make the ingredients dissolve again. Then pour back into the dropper bottle.
     
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    This has happened to me, too. Also been storing it in the fridge.
     
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