Ejaculation Pro-Metabolic, NoFap Retention Unnatural

[Dr. B]

Anything can cause anything I guess.
The implants were made into the abdominal wall, and the glands were usually provided by Armour and Company. Hunt Lyons was one of the doctors doing this.
I guess they were akin to the testosterone pellets used nowadays, and provided a steady low dose over a long period of time.
I haven't tried any of those supplements but I'm sure they work.

so consuming beef testicle, organs or other glandulars in freeze dried form should definitely help things?

 

[miquelangeles]

so consuming beef testicle, organs or other glandulars in freeze dried form should definitely help things?

Yes. I notice an effect from eating sautéed bull testicles. In the raw form (freeze dried) they should be even more effective.
There's also a government owned Russian biotech called Garmonia that manufactures purified peptide extracts from animal testicles, prostate and every other organs.

 

[miquelangeles]

Interesting stuff.

@miquelangeles some articles state the prostaglandins in semen are responsible for increasing cancer risk in women who consume them etc. also what kind of implants were these, where were the bull/ram testicles being implanted in these men? theres several reviews of the ancestral supps freeze dried testicle product creating increased vigor and vitality. people say it increases their vitality noticeable... its like a 6th of an ounce testicle per serving

Re: prostate

 

[TheSir]

The prolactin surge isn't an issue if you take supplements and boost thyroid to the point where you keep dopamine and metabolism high. Whjich is why i said that hypothyroid people are the ones that pursue and may benefit from nofap retention

Perhaps, but that's a different thing altogether in contrast to the context of your previous point to which I was replying.

 

[RenaissanceMan]

Perhaps, but that's a different thing altogether in contrast to the context of your previous point to which I was replying.

It's not

 

[Dr. B]

Yes. I notice an effect from eating sautéed bull testicles. In the raw form (freeze dried) they should be even more effective.
There's also a government owned Russian biotech called Garmonia that manufactures purified peptide extracts from animal testicles, prostate and every other organs.

interesting where can we get them?
peptides would function differently its like extracting specific hormones or things from the organ?

 

[miquelangeles]

interesting where can we get them?
peptides would function differently its like extracting specific hormones or things from the organ?

Yeah I think so. Search for Testoluten (testicle peptides) or Libidon (prostate peptides).

 

[Razvan]

It's not

Why do you even bother to respond to this low androgens guys? Don't you see that they can't be productive and confident after they have beautiful sex from "the 1-2 day prolactin surge" things like that will get adjusted and managed with high androgens and high dopamine.
Masturbation with porn is another thing.

 

[Razvan]

It’s not about changed perspective , it’s about commenting on something to early. No one should be making a post on a subject after only doing something for 2 weeks . If I tried vegan diet for 2 weeks and said it’s the best diet and healthiest then 2 months later I said vegan is bad and keto is the best, people wouldn’t take me as credible .so I’m not saying retention is good or bad, I’m saying your not credible . .

Leave the man give his experiences,by changing stuff and seeing the differences you will get different results. It's a good thing for the forum.
A man that remains with his idea forever and can't open his eyes to see he's not benefiting from it is stupid and delusional.
This is the perfect example of people which really think the covid vaccine has health benefits, whatever you say to them to counteract their opinion they will refuse to read it and get stuck with their idea.

 

[Dr. B]

Why do you even bother to respond to this low androgens guys? Don't you see that they can't be productive and confident after they have beautiful sex from "the 1-2 day prolactin surge" things like that will get adjusted and managed with high androgens and high dopamine.
Masturbation with porn is another thing.

the prolactin surge isnt supposed to last so long in healthy people its supposed to be a very sharp rise followed by sharp drop, in hypothyroid people prolactin stays mildly elevated all the time.

 

[Razvan]

the prolactin surge isnt supposed to last so long in healthy people its supposed to be a very sharp rise followed by sharp drop, in hypothyroid people prolactin stays mildly elevated all the time.

Yes,that's what I was saying. They have low androgens and prolactin is a very bad problem for them. If you are healthy,ejaculation when having sex shouldn't be a problem.

 

[Dr. B]

Yes,that's what I was saying. They have low androgens and prolactin is a very bad problem for them. If you are healthy,ejaculation when having sex shouldn't be a problem.

what do you think happens with ejaculation with porn and masturbation? prolactin rises higher? whats the issues there

 

[Razvan]

what do you think happens with ejaculation with porn and masturbation? prolactin rises higher? whats the issues there

In fact no ,the prolactin spike when having sex goes much more high cause the pleasure it's bigger,the problem is that when having sex that prolactin spike usually goes away after a few hours, by masturbating on porn you spike prolactin not so high,but high enough and it continues to remain high and starts to lower after days,also it's unnatural in seeing images and videos of porn and that can cause a real problem. Real sex raises testosterone and DHT,porn lowers it.

 

[RenaissanceMan]

In fact no ,the prolactin spike when having sex goes much more high cause the pleasure it's bigger,the problem is that when having sex that prolactin spike usually goes away after a few hours, by masturbating on porn you spike prolactin not so why,but high enough and it continues to remain high and starts to lower after days,also it's unnatural in seeing images and videos of porn and that can cause a real problem. Real sex raises testosterone and DHT,porn lowers it.

Another issue is that with porn you're left alone afterwards which is completely unnatural

With a girl you get to experience the pro-metabolic effects of cuddling and the oxytocin doesn't get pathological that way and bind you to your computer and porn sites

 

[Dr. B]

In fact no ,the prolactin spike when having sex goes much more high cause the pleasure it's bigger,the problem is that when having sex that prolactin spike usually goes away after a few hours, by masturbating on porn you spike prolactin not so why,but high enough and it continues to remain high and starts to lower after days,also it's unnatural in seeing images and videos of porn and that can cause a real problem. Real sex raises testosterone and DHT,porn lowers it.

i dont think so mate, for optimal function imo you need the full abstinence, those old greek athletes apparently were just like modern day race horses, the males werent having sex until after fully retiring from athletics, they apparently went as far as sleeping on top of some cold metal plate near the balls to reduce incidences of wet dreams. it seems like sex or porn masturbation will cause similar physical effects, energy effects, just for some people real sex wont have the same sort of depression like effects solitary masturbation does for some people

 

[Razvan]

i dont think so mate, for optimal function imo you need the full abstinence, those old greek athletes apparently were just like modern day race horses, the males werent having sex until after fully retiring from athletics, they apparently went as far as sleeping on top of some cold metal plate near the balls to reduce incidences of wet dreams. it seems like sex or porn masturbation will cause similar physical effects, energy effects, just for some people real sex wont have the same sort of depression like effects solitary masturbation does for some people

I get your sarcasm.

 

[Dr. B]

I get your sarcasm.

? i think Peat said he doesnt think theres a physiological difference between sex or masturbation
psychologically there could be

 

[RenaissanceMan]

? i think Peat said he doesnt think theres a physiological difference between sex or masturbation
psychologically there could be

you really don't think there's a physiological difference between the two? they're drastically different. keep in mind peat was born in a time when televisions were just starting to get popular, it took many decades for internet porn and compulsive masturbation to even be a thing.

 

[OccamzRazer]

you really don't think there's a physiological difference between the two? they're drastically different. keep in mind peat was born in a time when televisions were just starting to get popular, it took many decades for internet porn and compulsive masturbation to even be a thing.

Huge difference. I don't think I've ever felt bad after sex (unless copious amounts of alcohol were involved beforehand). Can't say the same about the other activity.

 

[Razvan]

? i think Peat said he doesnt think theres a physiological difference between sex or masturbation
psychologically there could be

Yes there is. You should try it.
I know peat says a lot but our experiments are better. I should trust my body not every phrase of of Peat