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East West Healing's Metabolic Blueprint Program

KansasEvan

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I would first off like to say that I am not affiliated with East West Healing. I am simply sharing my experience in hopes of helping those who may be suffering from chronic health conditions. I work with Josh Rubin and am a student of his program. It has truly turned my health around. I am not only learning about how the body works, but also how the Ray Peat inspired foods can help eliminate inflammation. He provides knowledge in a unique delivery. If you have any questions about it, please feel free to ask me.
 
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I don't think many would pay $500, when they can just follow Ray's advice and avoid all significant sources of PUFA, soy, and have a diet high in dairy, fruits, meats, and eggs, with at least 80 grams of protein from dairy and eggs.
 

PepsiGestures

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if you listen to Josh's interviews you can tell how stupid he is. I like how a few people tricked him with questions that used complicated-sounding words


I think it's possible that the original poster is Josh himself

i know how his personal consultations work ---- a lot of food loggings and bull****

what makes his course so good?

what a c**tfaced prick without any brains or understanding or sensitivity
 

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chris

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Wow, whats with all the aggression and hostility?

I agree with j, good if you have a fair bit of disposable income and little patience.
 

PepsiGestures

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the funniest thing about listening to josh is how often he says "upregulate" or "downregulate"

he's just trying to make money, trust me
 

slayers

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I don't think many would pay $500, when they can just follow Ray's advice and avoid all significant sources of PUFA, soy, and have a diet high in dairy, fruits, meats, and eggs, with at least 80 grams of protein from dairy and eggs.

I think it's always a good idea to have a coach no matter how well knowledgeable one is.

he's just trying to make money, trust me

Isn't that the goal for everyone? You understand we do live in a world where you need money to live why not make money helping people reach better health?
 

PepsiGestures

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No, it's not necessary to have a "coach." It's important to think for yourself, to judge information yourself to the best of your ability, and to make decisions yourself.

No, money is not the goal for everyone. Most of us do need some money, but good people are motivated by things other than money. The desire for mere money is a mistake, part of a sickness. I understand how Josh, and some others, see Peat. They see us as an emerging market. They see Peat's ideas as something to latch onto, something to start a business around, not ideas that can change the world and help people have better lives.
 

Asimov

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PepsiGestures said:
No, it's not necessary to have a "coach." It's important to think for yourself, to judge information yourself to the best of your ability, and to make decisions yourself.

No, money is not the goal for everyone. Most of us do need some money, but good people are motivated by things other than money. The desire for mere money is a mistake, part of a sickness. I understand how Josh, and some others, see Peat. They see us as an emerging market. They see Peat's ideas as something to latch onto, something to start a business around, not ideas that can change the world and help people have better lives.
What do you do for a living?
 

PepsiGestures

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It's not as if Josh is good at what he does. My problem with him isn't just his motives. Mainly I want to save people the trouble of paying a lot of money for a lot of garbled information they could get in a clearer form elsewhere.
 

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The problem is Ray Peat does not have any "Diet Book" like south beach and Atkins. So There are several so called " Ray Peat Experts" around living off RP ideas. Strangely none of these experts have any background in science or physiology. Among these experts Josh seems honest, though he is not that smart. He does not pretend like he knows more than RP. It does not take much to help out someone with repeating simple RP advices. A person with relatively good health can spend years searching for ideal diet, but people like josh can introduce people to Peat's way. Then if someone is curious they can find more about RP.
I hope RP would write a comprehensive book that would remove the need for intermediaries like Josh and others.
 

biggirlkisss

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He does a lot more good then many other people. He is sincere and he does want to help people.
 

Swandattur

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It seems like he needs someone to help him put all the information into a well organized handbook for health. His articles are very interesting, but it's very hard to put it all together. His work is not so accessible to many people who really need help. Many people who could benefit would get too shook up trying to even begin to figure it out, maybe in part due to their health problems. I think the reason I get it at all is that love mysteries and I've always found health and psychology interesting even if I only have a little science background. You can get too obsessed, which is why a complete handbook would be very good. You could get the information without having to obsess too much. It would be good to have some chapters to get you going in the right direction and then you could look further when you were ready to absorb more. There could be a trouble shooting index, and maybe a list of foods and supplements with information about all of them. Maybe he could do an amazon ebook.
I think if you had the right person for a diet coach and can afford it, it would be nice, because it isn't easy treating yourself, because it's hard to have enough objectivity, and it helps to have someone to bolster your morale and confidence.
 

jaketthomas

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I think it's a lot easier to sell yourself and your counseling if you look the part. If you're fit, well spoken, and have good energy, naturally, people will be more apt to listen to your advice. Josh Rubin is significantly overweight, but he has a good personality, and his videos are entertaining. He just needs to drop some lbs for more people to take him seriously. Fat guys giving dietary advice isn't the best business plan.
 

jaketthomas

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I think I may be biased, because I have actual training and certifications in the field of health, but for some people to try to make a living with no credentials is mind boggling to me. Danny Roddy selling a Ray Peat "interpretation" book for $47 is almost laughable. It's all information you can acquire for free by reading a few articles, and talking to a few people who have been down that road. He was a bass player for a small-time band for a year or two, and markets himself as a "musician for a major touring band".

I have 2 degrees, 3 certifications, including personal training, so naturally, it bugs me a little when a "googler" poses as a health professional. Matt Stone and Danny Roddy, in particular. But there are tons of others. Matt Monarch, Daniel Vitalis, David Wolfe, Harley Johnstone, and the list goes on and on.
 
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Ray Peat's ideas are wonderful but without Danny Roddy, I might have never heard of them, or about a whole lot of other interesting ideas.

I agree about the book price being laughable. I wouldn't pay more than $10 or $20 for something like that.
 

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jaketthomas said:
I think it's a lot easier to sell yourself and your counseling if you look the part. If you're fit, well spoken, and have good energy, naturally, people will be more apt to listen to your advice. Josh Rubin is significantly overweight, but he has a good personality, and his videos are entertaining. He just needs to drop some lbs for more people to take him seriously. Fat guys giving dietary advice isn't the best business plan.

This is a sore spot with me.

This is true because our culture equates thin with being healthy. Even athletes are not necessarily healthy. For example , the marathon runner that drops dead from a heart attack. Locally, a young 26 yr. old professional surfer is undergoing chemotherapy for testicular cancer. My daughter, always thin and athletic, diagnosed at 19 with Hodgkins lymphoma. This is becoming more common. She follows "paleo" and doesn't consider what I do as healthy and partly because of my weight gain nd her equating thinness with health!!

I find it to be more real to see him overweight. Enjoying life and not fitting into societies definition of what looks good. I am not saying that being overweight cannot be a health issue, but he claims he is well and unless he isn't following what he is teaching, I would tend to believe him.
 

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I find it kinda shocking that people like josh rubin are already being called overweigth. yeah,ive noticed he has gotten a bit fuller/chubbier over the course of his vids,but i dont consider him to be overweigth.
 

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Haagendazendiane said:
This is a sore spot with me.

This is true because our culture equates thin with being healthy. Even athletes are not necessarily healthy. For example , the marathon runner that drops dead from a heart attack. Locally, a young 26 yr. old professional surfer is undergoing chemotherapy for testicular cancer. My daughter, always thin and athletic, diagnosed at 19 with Hodgkins lymphoma. This is becoming more common. She follows "paleo" and doesn't consider what I do as healthy and partly because of my weight gain nd her equating thinness with health!!

I find it to be more real to see him overweight. Enjoying life and not fitting into societies definition of what looks good. I am not saying that being overweight cannot be a health issue, but he claims he is well and unless he isn't following what he is teaching, I would tend to believe him.

We already e-mailed about this, Haagendazendiane, but since you mention it here:
Someone very close to me has been diagnosed with Hodgkin's lymphoma when she was 29. (She is fine by the way, 4 years later now and without chemo therapy apart from a first horrible try.)

The thing is: She was always extremely athletic. She used to swim once a week, she went to a fitness studio twice a week. Nearly every morning she went for a run. In her free time she went climbing and skiing and surfing and I don't know what. She was always well muscled and people (even those who didn't know her) told her she looked "healthy".
When the doctors told us she had cancer her first words were "But I do sports all the time." and the doctor (he was a specialist for blood cancers and lymphoma) said: "That's what all my patients say."
You couldn't tell after a few rounds of chemo. They all got cortisone so they had these typical watery, fat look - but when you talked to the other patients they would tell you about their marathons and how they loved to climb mountains and cycle from Rome to Madrid.

I think there is a big difference between what we have come to associate with "looking healthy" and with "being healthy".
Sometimes what will shift the balance toward one of the two, will lessen the other.
I think if you want to validate what people say - you might want to try and validate what they say and not how they look when they say it.
 

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Rayser said:
I think if you want to validate what people say - you might want to try and validate what they say and not how they look when they say it.
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juanitacarlos

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Rayser said:
I think there is a big difference between what we have come to associate with "looking healthy" and with "being healthy".
Sometimes what will shift the balance toward one of the two, will lessen the other.
I think if you want to validate what people say - you might want to try and validate what they say and not how they look when they say it.

Couldn't agree more. My uncle recently died from melanoma. Not an ounce of fat on him. Can't say I ever remember him even being sick in any major way. Plenty of energy. He passed away 6 weeks after diagnosis after seeing the doctor with a back ache. So not being fat, and even 'looking' healthy doesn't really mean a whole lot.
 

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