Don't people realize that

[TypicalJock]

The government prints trillions of dollars for free, backed by nothing.
They opress society with taxes, make them abide by the paper when it holds no value(literally)
How are people this stupid to let them get away with this
Imagine if everyone stopped using money
This is now a war of mind games,slavery has indeed evolved

 

[Meta]

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHe0bXAIuk0


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lu_VqX6J93k

 

[damngoodcoffee]

Imagine if everyone stopped using money

It's so weird to me how people think that we couldn't live without money, as if it's a force of nature or something. It's a symbol of slavery, nothing else. Someone else determining the value of your ideas and deeds, someone deeply flawed and psychotic, a control freak with a God complex.
Only God knows the butterfly effect of all things in creation and only God can determine the value of my life and inspiration is how He guides me, not fear and extortion.

 

[Androsclerosis]

The government prints trillions of dollars for free, backed by nothing.

Inflation is important for financing small businesses, without it, companies would have a hard time taking credits from banks.

They opress society with taxes, make them abide by the paper when it holds no value(literally)
How are people this stupid to let them get away with this

With taxes you pay security, investments in infrastructure, healthcare and more. In some countries you get almost free universal healthcare.

Imagine if everyone stopped using money

Money is essential, it depends how it´s used. It´s a way to exchange value.

This is now a war of mind games,slavery has indeed evolved

That´s true.

 

[damngoodcoffee]

Money is essential

Why?

Do we need it to wake up in the morning, to breathe, hear, see, taste, smell, feel? No.

Do we need it to grow food? No.

Do we need it to build shelter? No.

Do we need it to exchange ideas? No.

Do we need it to forgive? No.

Do we need it to hinder development of new better ways to do things as a community, to keep us trapped in our own little artificial survival path where the slave masters whip keeps us from perceiving the big picture? Yes.

Do we need it to strip people of their independence, of their creative spark, of their own connection to their body and larger surrounding reality, to impose a schedule and a lifestyle to others by force? Yes.

 

[Shackles]

Inflation is important

for devaluating the work someone has done years ago

 

[Peatful]

@fico

 

[amd]

The current inflation is a by-product of scarcity brought upon by governments trying to crash the economy (lockdowns) to bring the Great Reset (elimination of debt) because they are bankrupt and have pillage/mismanaged (directly and indirectly) the pension funds.

The media replaces the word "government" with "pandemic".

Nothing stays the same so why we should stick to other people's opinions?

Can't we analyze current events for ourselves?

The Fed had an original mandate, but Franklin D. Roosevelt changed that (socialist agenda).

Look at the Fed regional banks, each was supposed to set independent rates to account for the internal flow of money in the US.

Elastic money is not a sin. Nature comes and goes, it doesn't stay put. You must account for the natural variability of things.

Today you can see the interference of the current administration in Fed matters.

The media is bringing to the front dirt on the Fed's heads (gray area, some quit) so that the Biden administration can replace them with Marxist sympathizers.

Just like the Biden administration wants to increase the number of judges in the Supreme Court, that's also interference.

I have posted before on how people are entertained and divided with all kinds of paraphernalia to keep them distracted and fighting each other (the misdirection).

Focus on what matters, we won't have the energy to resist their plans if we spent most of the time arguing with each other.

 

[TypicalJock]

The current inflation is a by-product of scarcity brought upon by governments trying to crash the economy (lockdowns) to bring the Great Reset (elimination of debt) because they are bankrupt and have pillage/mismanaged (directly and indirectly) the pension funds.

The media replaces the word "government" with "pandemic".

Nothing stays the same so why we should stick to other people's opinions?

Can't we analyze current events for ourselves?

The Fed had an original mandate, but Roosevelt changed all that (socialist agenda).

Look at the Fed regional banks, each was supposed to set independent rates to account for the internal flow of money in the US.

Elastic money is not a sin.

Today you can see the interference of the current administration in Fed matters.

The media is bringing to the front dirt on the Fed's heads (gray area, some quit) so that the Biden administration can replace them with marxist sympathizers.

Just like the Biden administration wants to increase the number of judges in the Supreme Court, that's also interference.

I have posted before on how people are entertained and divided with all kinds of paraphernalia to keep them distracted and fighting each other (the misdirection).

Focus on what matters, we won't have the energy to resist their plans if we spent most of the time arguing with each other.

sounds legit

 

[Quelsatron]

Why?

Do we need it to wake up in the morning, to breathe, hear, see, taste, smell, feel? No.

Do we need it to grow food? No.

Do we need it to build shelter? No.

Do we need it to exchange ideas? No.

Do we need it to forgive? No.

Do we need it to hinder development of new better ways to do things as a community, to keep us trapped in our own little artificial survival path where the slave masters whip keeps us from perceiving the big picture? Yes.

Do we need it to strip people of their independence, of their creative spark, of their own connection to their body and larger surrounding reality, to impose a schedule and a lifestyle to others by force? Yes.

You need money to facilitate a complex economy or the people with a complex economy will come and put you inside their complex economy in a much worse spot than the one you left.

 

[YourUniverse]

Money is how free markets determine the value of things, not how someone determines that value. The problem is collusion and corruption, things that interfere with free markets (government mandates, consumer or producer restrictions), things like insider trading, politicians getting rich buying and shorting stocks just prior to market equilibrium-shifting disasters (see nancy pelosi, for example). It is weird how governments print money endlessly, inflating (devaluing) everyones currency which only helps the capital-owners, so I agree to this extent. I hadnt thought about inflation + taxes

 

[OccamzRazer]

"Gold is God's money. The government money is fiat currency: the dollar, the yen, the euro. And then now we have people's money called crypto."

- Robert Kiyosaki

 

[damngoodcoffee]

You need money to facilitate a complex economy or the people with a complex economy will come and put you inside their complex economy in a much worse spot than the one you left.

A lot of things could and should be a lot more simple. I remember hearing about a tribe in Africa thinking that they could design a wheel but they didn't want to as they thought it would lead to the destruction of the world. Many indigenous peoples talk about how good things were before the white man came.

And even in a more complex economy I think things could work well if people were more interested in forgiving rather then revenge, in how to take care of others instead of how others can potentially harm you. Love vs Fear. We choose every day. Both become self-fulfilling prophecies IMHO. Money is based on fear.

Money is how free markets determine the value of things, not how someone determines that value.

I seriously doubt that's ever really the case. And even if it were, it's basically the same thing. Might makes right mentality. To me a poor person who has the nerve to think he can be God and determine the value of my ideas and deeds is an authoritarian slave master and an enemy as much as a banker or a politician.

 

[Androsclerosis]

Why?

Do we need it to wake up in the morning, to breathe, hear, see, taste, smell, feel? No.

Do we need it to grow food? No.

Do we need it to build shelter? No.

Do we need it to exchange ideas? No.

Do we need it to forgive? No.

Do we need it to hinder development of new better ways to do things as a community, to keep us trapped in our own little artificial survival path where the slave masters whip keeps us from perceiving the big picture? Yes.

Do we need it to strip people of their independence, of their creative spark, of their own connection to their body and larger surrounding reality, to impose a schedule and a lifestyle to others by force? Yes.

Ok, do it yourself then. Sell all your things, move to the countryside, build a shelter from scratch and give me the money you have left.

 

[damngoodcoffee]

Ok, do it yourself then. Sell all your things, move to the countryside, build a shelter from scratch and give me the money you have left.

While solitude is important, no man is an island. I'm not against help of other people.

But hey, I'm 29, my leader went to the wilderness and fasted for 40 days around the same age, maybe it's time for me to do the same soon. I'm going to get a prison sentence soon for refusing military service, maybe I'll do my wilderness adventure escape if I don't feel like going to prison. :-p

But even if I'd find a way to be in perfect peace and solitude somewhere, I'd still have to come back to Babylon to destroy it. I'm not interested just in my own freedom.

 

[Quelsatron]

A lot of things could and should be a lot more simple. I remember hearing about a tribe in Africa thinking that they could design a wheel but they didn't want to as they thought it would lead to the destruction of the world. Many indigenous peoples talk about how good things were before the white man came.

And even in a more complex economy I think things could work well if people were more interested in forgiving rather then revenge, in how to take care of others instead of how others can potentially harm you. Love vs Fear. We choose every day. Both become self-fulfilling prophecies IMHO. Money is based on fear.


I seriously doubt that's ever really the case. And even if it were, it's basically the same thing. Might makes right mentality. To me a poor person who has the nerve to think he can be God and determine the value of my ideas and deeds is an authoritarian slave master and an enemy as much as a banker or a politician.

Yeah, the simple economy was encroached upon by a complex economy and their lives became worse.

 

[damngoodcoffee]

Me:
Hi

Personally I'm convinced that if people become healthy enough there could be a functioning society without money. In fact I see money as an indication of a nonfunctioning society.

I think money is a sluggish way for the slow minded to value the ideas and deeds of others and ultimately stands in the way of a better future.

(Not to say that money can't be used intelligently or that rich people are automatically immoral. When we're in a prison we need to use the tools inside the prison to escape.)

What do you think? Thanks.

Ray:
I agree, money-based thinking is a great impediment to personal and social development.

 

[Peatness]

I'm not interested just in my own freedom.

It's good to know there are people invested in helping others

 

[YourUniverse]

Might makes right mentality.

I think thats a fair point

To me a poor person who has the nerve to think he can be God and determine the value of my ideas and deeds is an authoritarian slave master and an enemy as much as a banker or a politician.

Youre the producer of your own ideas and deeds as much as any capitalist corp is the producer of their goods. If no one values your ideas/deeds, should they still have to pay YOUR (or anyone in particular's) asking price? Isnt it authoritarian to force a price point, or value, on anyone? If I dont agree with the asking price, I shouldnt have to buy it (I shouldnt have to agree with someones idea).

How do we determine the best idea then? This last part, Im not sure. Lots of people can share an idea and that idea can be incorrect (that COVID is a pandemic-worthy event, for example, or that every person on earth should receive a covid19 vaccine, which are good cases for 'might makes right' I think). Determining the best idea is a corollary for determining the price of goods in a society, I think.

Clearly the system can be improved. There are lots of really great ideas in theory.

 

[damngoodcoffee]

Youre the producer of your own ideas and deeds as much as any capitalist corp is the producer of their goods. If no one values your ideas/deeds, should they still have to pay YOUR (or anyone in particular's) asking price? Isnt it authoritarian to force a price point, or value, on anyone? If I dont agree with the asking price, I shouldnt have to buy it (I shouldnt have to agree with someones idea).

How do we determine the best idea then? This last part, Im not sure. Lots of people can share an idea and that idea can be incorrect (that COVID is a pandemic-worthy event, for example, or that every person on earth should receive a covid19 vaccine, which are good cases for 'might makes right' I think). Determining the best idea is a corollary for determining the price of goods in a society, I think.

I can't stand the idea of demanding anything in return for my services and products. I want to create and give, create and give, create and give. All I want in return is the time, freedom, independence, dignity and basic food and shelter to be able to develop my talents etc. The whole idea of food, shelter and "spare time" being a price of good work is insane, they are the fuel, the foundation for good work. This world is backwards.

Of course I need help from others and fun things which aren't a necessity per se but I don't want to impose a way for anyone as to how they should help me. And that's how I believe I'll get the best quality help, whatever it may be. It will be something born from a place of creative genius instead of bitter survival. And that kind of a system would naturally bring like-minded people close to me to support me in what I want. For example I'd like to grow cannabis and give it away for free in a little coffee shop I would have. I would keep my shop open when I want to and no bureaucrat would have any say in how I run my shop, no right to come do their inspections etc. If that'd make someone think I don't do good work with integrity then by all means, they could stay as far from my shop as they'd like. And I'm sure like-minded cannabis lovers would share with me what they do with delight, let's say clothing, or they'd help me with recording music (which would naturally also be free for everyone). It's actually a dilemma I'm having right now, I love making music and I'd like to do a physical album but the idea of demanding money for my music is disgusting to me.

I'm convinced that when we aren't oppressed, our unique talents bloom naturally and we simply can't stop ourselves from sharing what we have to give. Call it optimal energy flow, inspiration, holy spirit or whatever. We all have something we have a natural passion about, things we are gifted in. Even if they are suppressed and hidden because of trauma from the authoritarian culture, our identity being scattered. I'm convinced that trust, respect and support work better for getting the best out of us and for creating a more harmonious unified society than the whip. I like how Peat said something about him being against the whole idea of there being separate work time and spare time.

Unfortunately a lot of people seem to think that energy is a chaotic destroying force rather than something which generates order. And that we need to suppress it instead of celebrating it for order in the world. ? Again, this world is backwards.

Matthew 6
24 "Now no one can be slaving for two lords, for either he will be hating the one and loving the other, or will be upholding one and despising the other. You can not be slaving for God and mammon.
25 "Therefore I am saying to you, Do not worry about your soul, what you may be eating, or what you may be drinking, nor yet about your body, what you should be putting on. Is not the soul more than nourishment, and the body than apparel?
26 "Look at the flying creatures of heaven, that they are not sowing, neither are they reaping, nor are they gathering into barns, and your heavenly Father is nourishing them. Are not you of more consequence than they?

Luke 6
30 Now you, be giving to everyone who is requesting, and from him who is taking away what is yours be not demanding it.
31 And, according as you are wanting that men may be doing to you, you also be doing to them likewise.
32 "And if you are loving those loving you, what thanks is it to you? For sinners also are loving those loving them.
33 And if you should be doing good to those doing good to you, what thanks is it to you? For sinners also are doing the same.
34 And if you should ever be lending to those from whom you are expecting to get back, what thanks is it to you? For sinners also are lending to sinners, that they may get back the equivalent.
35 Moreover, be loving your enemies, and be doing good, and be lending, expecting nothing from them, and your wages will be vast in the heavens, and you will be sons of the Most High, for He is kind to the ungrateful and wicked.
36 "Become, then, pitiful, according as your Father also is pitiful.
37 And be not judging, and under no circumstances may you be judged; and be not convicting, and under no circumstances may you be convicted; be releasing, and you shall be released;
38 be giving, and it shall be given to you: a measure ideal, squeezed down and shaken together and running over, shall they be giving into your bosom. For the same measure with which you are measuring will be measured to you again."