Does Tropical Weather Inhibit Metabolism?

hei

Member
Joined
Jun 7, 2019
Messages
221
Peat wrote that people with hypothyroidism often experience relief after moving to the tropics as the heat load augments or reduces the need for endogenous heat production.
Is it possible that this also operates in reverse, as in, the environmental heat load is so great that the body lowers its metabolism to avoid producing excess body heat, inadvertently causing the hypothyroid health problems?

I live in the tropics and find the heat and sun utterly exhausting while also causing very poor sleep. People who have been here long-term tend to look unhealthy and weathered, and are often extremely intolerant of "cold": at temperatures in the 20s (ºC) they complain about being "freezing" and unable to warm up without going out in the sun, as if they have turned into lizards.

I also came across a quote from Peat where he mentions, in passing, lowering his use of thyroid because of environmental conditions: "When I had been in Florida and stopped using thyroid because of the heat and humidity, a 2 centimeter diameter mole (jumbo black olive-like) grew in front of my ear during 2 or 3 weeks. A soon as I returned to Oregon I started using thyroid, and the mole immediately began shrinking and fading. About two weeks later, the pale remnant on a dry stalk fell off, without leaving a scar. Since then I have generally recommended just becoming slightly hyperthyroid, " (RP Email Advice Comment: Moles)
It sounds to me like he stopped using thyroid for comfort reasons but didn't experience a hyperthyroid effect on his health due to the heat, only when he went home and began taking thyroid again. Is there any reason to think the body does not do something similar?
 
Last edited:

Vinny

Member
Joined
Dec 11, 2018
Messages
1,175
Age
48
Location
Paphos, Cyprus
Peat wrote that people with hypothyroidism often experience relief after moving to the tropics as the heat load augments or reduces the need for endogenous heat production.
Is it possible that this also operates in reverse, as in, the environmental heat load is so great that the body lowers its metabolism to avoid producing excess body heat, inadvertently causing the hypothyroid health problems?

I live in the tropics and find the heat and sun utterly exhausting while also causing very poor sleep. People who have been here long-term tend to look unhealthy and weathered, and are often extremely intolerant of "cold": at temperatures in the 20s (ºC) they complain about being "freezing" and unable to warm up without going out in the sun, as if they have turned into lizards.

I also came across a quote from Peat where he mentions, in passing, lowering his use of thyroid because of environmental conditions: "When I had been in Florida and stopped using thyroid because of the heat and humidity, a 2 centimeter diameter mole (jumbo black olive-like) grew in front of my ear during 2 or 3 weeks. A soon as I returned to Oregon I started using thyroid, and the mole immediately began shrinking and fading. About two weeks later, the pale remnant on a dry stalk fell off, without leaving a scar. Since then I have generally recommended just becoming slightly hyperthyroid, " (RP Email Advice Comment: Moles)
It sounds to me like he stopped using thyroid for comfort reasons but didn't experience a hyperthyroid effect on his health due to the heat, only when he went home and began taking thyroid again. Is there any reason to think the body does not do something similar?
I live in Cyprus and I also find the heat and sun utterly exhausting. So, yes, the body compensates to avoid overheating by lowering metabolizm. I'm planning to move in a moderate climate.
 

Michael Mohn

Member
Joined
Dec 7, 2019
Messages
226
High air humidity prevents the body from releasing the heat produced by high metabolism via sweating into the environment. Therefore living in the tropics is blocking healthy metabolism. Most white people living in the tropics move into higher altitudes were the nights are cooler and climate is sometimes dryer. Peat told a story how he was in Florida and thyroid wouldn't work and he was just in agony.
 

LLight

Member
Joined
May 30, 2018
Messages
724
Joined
Nov 18, 2018
Messages
596
High air humidity prevents the body from releasing the heat produced by high metabolism via sweating into the environment. Therefore living in the tropics is blocking healthy metabolism. Most white people living in the tropics move into higher altitudes were the nights are cooler and climate is sometimes dryer. Peat told a story how he was in Florida and thyroid wouldn't work and he was just in agony.
I live in Miami and it’s disgusting. Thinking of moving to Peru or Argentina eventually
 

sugarbabe

Member
Joined
Sep 13, 2012
Messages
3,347
I love it, I absolutely hated the winters up North. I mean no one spends all their time outdoors even in the North so I'm unsure why humidity would have such a bad effect on people if they mainly sit inside in air conditioning. Maybe it's not even the humidity, maybe the avoidance of it that causes problems. You do adapt to it the longer you force yourself to be in it. I remember when I was a teenager and went on vacation to Florida I don't remember ever feeling like I couldn't tolerate the humidity and that was in August the worst humidity and heat there is. We even went to Disney and walked around for an entire day. The older you are the more likely you can't tolerate heat. But what is it about aging that causes that? I think there's something missing in the theory.
 

lvysaur

Member
Joined
Mar 15, 2014
Messages
1,938
yeah, I've experienced this. It's the humidity. appetite decreases too.
 

sileindigo

Member
Joined
Sep 8, 2012
Messages
7
I’m currently trying to figure out some things related to this and my health. I moved from a cold climate (Wisconsin) to a very hot and humid one (Saipan- tropical island) and have noticed some improvements in my health (easy to stay warm, plenty of sun good for my mood) but I have really been struggling with feeling fatigued easily, skin issues like infections, acne and hives, and heat/humidity intolerance. I noticed that for myself and a friend, our skin issues really flare up during the rainy season, where it tends to be between 80-90% humidity at all times, versus the 70-80% during the hotter but drier season. I love it here otherwise. But these issues really seem to come down to humidity and I’m not sure how to mitigate that. Anyone have experience with this? I’ve been reading a bit about it and so far have noted that drinking too much liquid can be an issue if you’re hypo (hard not to do since I’m sweaty 24/7 in this climate and literally dripping sweat anytime I’m exerting myself physically which is multiple times daily), estrogen dominance can cause issues with cells and water (I might still be? I do take progesterone and am thinking to experiment with an increased dose) and the fact that Ray has mentioned having to stop thyroid supplements when he was in a similar climate (Florida) but I haven’t found the whole story on that one. Humid hot climates suppressing metabolism but also reading a few places already that people have had to stop taking thyroid in these climates, seems kind of like a no-win situation. I wonder which way to go on this? I feel like thyroid could definitely benefit me, and I did take Tyromax and Tyromax for awhile but did not notice any benefit and it seemed to coincide with my eyes getting really dry at night so I’ve since stopped all thyroid. I don’t have access to any other brands yet unfortunately. I would love to hear from others who live in hot, tropical areas and how they deal with the heat and humidity while maintaining optimal thyroid function. Thanks!!
 

Michael Mohn

Member
Joined
Dec 7, 2019
Messages
226
Get an AC for the rainy season. Saipan goes up to 500m, maybe you can move higher. Over 300m the tropical climate starts to becomes more bearable, at least at night. I have spent 4 years in Malaysia, Indonesia and Thailand, the first year was great, a fan in my room was enough but after the 2nd year the humidity became so unbearable that I needed AC to sleep. Being small & thin helps to lose body heat via convection instead of transpiration. Wearing synthetics instead of cotton helps a lot but might have estrogenic effects.
 

Vinny

Member
Joined
Dec 11, 2018
Messages
1,175
Age
48
Location
Paphos, Cyprus
I’m currently trying to figure out some things related to this and my health. I moved from a cold climate (Wisconsin) to a very hot and humid one (Saipan- tropical island) and have noticed some improvements in my health (easy to stay warm, plenty of sun good for my mood) but I have really been struggling with feeling fatigued easily, skin issues like infections, acne and hives, and heat/humidity intolerance. I noticed that for myself and a friend, our skin issues really flare up during the rainy season, where it tends to be between 80-90% humidity at all times, versus the 70-80% during the hotter but drier season. I love it here otherwise. But these issues really seem to come down to humidity and I’m not sure how to mitigate that. Anyone have experience with this? I’ve been reading a bit about it and so far have noted that drinking too much liquid can be an issue if you’re hypo (hard not to do since I’m sweaty 24/7 in this climate and literally dripping sweat anytime I’m exerting myself physically which is multiple times daily), estrogen dominance can cause issues with cells and water (I might still be? I do take progesterone and am thinking to experiment with an increased dose) and the fact that Ray has mentioned having to stop thyroid supplements when he was in a similar climate (Florida) but I haven’t found the whole story on that one. Humid hot climates suppressing metabolism but also reading a few places already that people have had to stop taking thyroid in these climates, seems kind of like a no-win situation. I wonder which way to go on this? I feel like thyroid could definitely benefit me, and I did take Tyromax and Tyromax for awhile but did not notice any benefit and it seemed to coincide with my eyes getting really dry at night so I’ve since stopped all thyroid. I don’t have access to any other brands yet unfortunately. I would love to hear from others who live in hot, tropical areas and how they deal with the heat and humidity while maintaining optimal thyroid function. Thanks!!
As @Michael Mohn suggested, AC is the ONLY solution in humid climate I can think of. This is what keeps me out of serious trouble in Cyprus between July and November. Just invest in a good quality unit and you'll be more or less fine there. We can't adapt - no way. Every year gets worse and worse.
 

Herbie

Member
Joined
Jun 7, 2016
Messages
1,208
On one of the lastest Danny Roddy, Georgi, Peat interview Ray said that healthy people would become sick if they moved to the tropics and hypo people would benefit.
 

sugarbabe

Member
Joined
Sep 13, 2012
Messages
3,347
On one of the lastest Danny Roddy, Georgi, Peat interview Ray said that healthy people would become sick if they moved to the tropics and hypo people would benefit.
I have seen it being the opposite as well. Not black and white. Estrogen dominance can lead to feeling like you are going to overheat and get sick.
 
Similar threads
Thread starter Title Forum Replies Date
VendettaRed911 What, if any, effect does aspirin have on ketosis? Supplements, Pharmaceutical Drugs 0
M Carrot — Does It Have to Be a Salad?? Ask For Help or Advice 11
R Learned helplessness is actually backwards, helplessness is innate in mammals and does not have to be learned, helpfulness is what is actually learned Scientific Studies 1
M Does a lot of copper increase the need of vitamin C? Ask For Help or Advice 10
Michael Mohn Does serotonin in fruit raise serotonin blood levels? Cortisol, Serotonin, Histamine 5
K How does Androsterone compare to Anastrozole as an AI? Thyroid and Hormones 11
E Does anyone know if glycine supplement raise hemoglobin? Ask For Help or Advice 0
M Crazy question, but does putting the finger in the throat to induce gagging , not vommitting, increase stomach acid? Ask For Help or Advice 1
yerrag When Inflammation Does Not Get Confirmed By Certain Markers of Inflammation Cancer, Degenerative Diseases 61
M Does taurine increase stomach acid or not? Ask For Help or Advice 3
K Why does vitamin K2 mk4 make my skin dry? K 4
S Why does Ask For Help or Advice 2
A Does vitamin K supplementation deplete vitamin E? Vitamins 25
bzmazu Vaccine: Twenty countries suspend injections; does that make you “hesitant?” Viruses, Parasites, Fungus, Vaccines 113
P Why does l dopa make me pee so much? Supplements, Pharmaceutical Drugs 4
ecstatichamster Aspirin increases cancer and mortality — or does it? Scientific Studies 9
ScurveDream Should friendship be forced? How exactly does "friendship" or "having friends" work across different parameters? Ask For Help or Advice 13
M Does cooking vegetables destroy their vitamin C? Ask For Help or Advice 11
V Does it have to be orange juice? Diet 36
F Why does Sildenafil and other PDE5 inhibitors help my sleep? Male Issues 0
D Does B-50 cause anhedonia? Water-Soluble Vitamins 29
yerrag Does Anyone Have References that Validate the Use of Urine pH as a Proxy for Blood/ECF pH? Acidity vs. Alkalinity 65
A Penis Does Not Get Quite As Hard As It Used To Ask For Help or Advice 35
Hgreen56 Does milk or calcium raise gaba? Milk 3
Sam321 Does speed of magnesium spray absorption correlate current levels of magnesium in system? Ask For Help or Advice 0
M Does magnesium glycinate increase dht? Supplements, Pharmaceutical Drugs 8
ScurveDream Leanness and physiology -- how does it all work (more of a rant)? Metabolism 1
lvysaur Does chicken digest faster than beef? Meat 4
deliciousfruit Does liver from grain-fed animals contain vitamin A? Meat, Organ Meat, Gelatin, Seafood 2
J How does Ray Peat make coffee? Ask For Help or Advice 8
U What does eggs offer to be important part of the diet? Diet 9
T Does adrenaline damage the nervous system? Ask For Help or Advice 3
L Does a Moderna vaccinated person cause harm to a non vaccinated person? Vaccines 15
BearWithMe Does NDT supplement, T3/T4 or iodine raise PTH? Natural Dessicated Thyroid 4
ddjd why does saturated fat + carbs make me fat?? Ask For Help or Advice 67
Hgreen56 Does Gaba decrease metabolic rate? Diet 0
P Why Does Lowering Estrogen Slow My Hair Loss? (Interesting experience) Hair & Nails 4
Lokzo Does Lion's Mane Destroy Your Libido/Sex Drive?! Supplements, Pharmaceutical Drugs 9
Frankdee20 Does dietary cholesterol intake increase it ? Cholesterol 8
ursidae >70 g of PUFA a day | Does diet even matter? Diet 72
TypicalJock Does food in plastic packaging effect the food? Ask For Help or Advice 1
tankasnowgod Milk, OJ, Cottage Cheese, Yogurt..... Does Temperature of these foods matter? Digestion 36
C Does Flowers Of Sulphur Only Benefit The Gut? Ask For Help or Advice 14
T Klonopin? How Does This Drug Do Nothing For Me? Supplements, Pharmaceutical Drugs 2
T Why Does Drinking Cause Suicidal Thoughts Now? Mental Issues 23
P Anti-Peat What Does Peat Have To Say About Tribal/indigenous Peoples Eating Pufa? Debate - Anti-Peat 22
jamies33 Does Believing In The Concept Of Karma Negate Belief In The Multiverse Theory? Meditation, Mindfullness, Religion, Spirituality 2
J Does Anyone Know Anything About Selleckchem Dot Com? Supplements, Pharmaceutical Drugs 0
lvysaur Why Does Aspirin Lower My Bilirubin? Blood Work, Labs 2
F Does Anyone Have A Backup Of Tyw's Blog? Ask For Help or Advice 13

Similar threads

Top