Do You Believe "pizzagate" ?

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Powerful people do what they want, and just as easily can be accused without doing so.

My friend who went to thailand has knowledge of powerful people going there to sleep with kids and transexuals.

It happens. Not sure how common it is however. Time will tell.
 

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Is there an article or source in particular you find convincing that you'd like to reference?
 

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Thanks, I've only heard bits & pieces of the story and will read what you posted
 

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The Podestas and a lot of high up people in the democrat party and their friends are just seriously weird. A lot of it is anti-bourgeoisie signaling: we're so progressive and elite that normal standards of taste and behavior don't apply to us. You'd see this sort of bohemian dynamic in a lot of the degenerate aristocracies of yore.

They don't rape and kill children, they're just rich and affectedly weird and probably homosexual. The people "investigating" this online don't understand the dynamic and getting blinded by a lot of confirmation bias.
 

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It's obvious that the emails in question, the ones about food, are in code for something. I don't think anyone, even the most ardent Hillary bot, would refute that. Here's the two points I'm interested in:

1) the claims that it's about child sex trafficking are that those are, indeed, the code words used. Kind of like how in gay culture a "bear" is a big hairy gay guy, a "twink" is a small effeminate guy, people claim there is a child sex nomenclature. This is the thing to find out whether it's true or not, because if you can prove that is true, then it's basically an open and shut case when someone is using that nomenclature that they are committing those acts.

2) If the code isn't about child sex rings, and it's about something innocuous, why doesn't someone in the Hillary camp or Podesta himself come out and explain it? Why hasn't' the media asked that question? They are bending over backwards to call it fake, but anyone with a brain can see it's code about something. This makes me think that it's about something bad, and that the associated parties perceive it better for the public to speculate than to end the speculation by making a statement. So you can't say it's true or not, but you can say that the people involved are using a code that they refuse to divulge the meaning of and that is strongly suggestive of some type of criminal behavior.
 
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The Podestas and a lot of high up people in the democrat party and their friends are just seriously weird. A lot of it is anti-bourgeoisie signaling: we're so progressive and elite that normal standards of taste and behavior don't apply to us. You'd see this sort of bohemian dynamic in a lot of the degenerate aristocracies of yore.

They don't rape and kill children, they're just rich and affectedly weird and probably homosexual. The people "investigating" this online don't understand the dynamic and getting blinded by a lot of confirmation bias.

what do the coded emails mean ?

what do the man's weird instagram photos mean ? (podesta emailed him)

why is podesta attending a "spirit cooking" ?
 

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Sure that happens, and it's nothing new, its been happening since we're humans across all the history; its a tabu and a shady area, intrinsic in our nature. Ruling class is not attached to the mainstream adoctrinated moral; they feel their powerness unleashing and freeing up their instinct and desire at their will.

They don't feel like its something bad, but rather normal; like what the male lions do with the female cubs from other male. We most average joes are "programmed" culturally to feel this shocking and disgusting, so we are better controlled and society doesn't turn into chaos.

The elite isn't ruled by the same code. Good or bad that's how nature is; its just we tend to highly overestimate us as specie.

That said, the politics and names exposed by the media are just at the bottom of the pack; the true actors may get rid of some scapegoat if needed to calm down waters.
 
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Is it probably true? Yeah. It it just coincidence that it's released now, by wikileaks, in the midst of a purported "revolution" with Trump? No. It's a fragment of the greater truth being released to rile up the masses so they can be further manipulated. Protect children, don't let them watch TV and all these shitty movies. Trump ks involved in this ***t, too- ron paul, bernie sanders, all of them. Pedophilia is the preferred form of blackmail and control for those who really run the country, and all countries. That's the only level that this sort of behaviour is understandable on. Plus it's an excuse for the legal system to supress "fake news". Russia Today is owned by Novosti which is financed by the coomonwealth broadcasting system, who also own npr, pbs, pacifica, &etc.
 

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Sure that happens, and it's nothing new, its been happening since we're humans across all the history; its a tabu and a shady area, intrinsic in our nature. Ruling class is not attached to the mainstream adoctrinated moral; they feel their powerness unleashing and freeing up their instinct and desire at their will.

They don't feel like its something bad, but rather normal; like what the male lions do with the female cubs from other male. We most average joes are "programmed" culturally to feel this shocking and disgusting, so we are better controlled and society doesn't turn into chaos.

The elite isn't ruled by the same code. Good or bad that's how nature is; its just we tend to highly overestimate us as specie.

That said, the politics and names exposed by the media are just at the bottom of the pack; the true actors may get rid of some scapegoat if needed to calm down waters.

Nobody needs to be programmed culturally to see that sex with young kids is psychopathology at work. What purpose is there for having sex with prepubescent children? None other than the depraved individuals Low energy desires being fulfilled,desire for pathological control and ejacultion,the individuals participating in this don't see it as normal,it's the taboo vulgar nature of it that drives them.
Nor are humans freeing up instinct and will desiring to have sex with kids,these are your own warped hubris fuelled projections.
It's ejacultion and orgasm,nothing difficult to achieve,no need for Nietzsche styled wording of unleashing powerness,scratching your balls and urinating after a long wait has as much pleasure within a certain context.
Not all ruling class or financial elite are paedophiles,the majority are not,their are just as many paedophiles going unreported all over the world in lower social classes.

The reason people are disgusted by it and try to stop it is for the good,aspiring to be better,evolving,things we can do,just because nature allows for something doesn't mean it's good for humans or the planet,nuclear weapons as an a example.
On top of that If I had kids I wouldn't want an old man or women sexually interacting with them,if it was natural to humans as you say,those who are culturally programmed why does it incite rage into any parent the thoughts of those things,to reiterate the point,the child's brain is not fully formed,the paedophiles brain is dysfunctional,low energy.

A child's brain is still growing,they don't want to have sex with adults,the paedophiles who claimed a child should have a right to choose were ignoring this obvious point and pointing with their ignorance of this to their own mental dysfunction.

Trying to use lions sexual behaviour or bonobos for that matter as an example for human culture is currently flawed ,the studies on bonobos have many questions around it that doesn't tie in well with human behaviour,the main author of those studies on bonobos sees this himself and warned against using bonobos as examples for human sexual behaviour.
For example,after a fight two bonobo males rub their asses together for some reason,we don't see this in human culture ,however Dana White is rumoured to be bringing this in as rule to UFC soon to boost ratings.
Where is the conclusive evidence that male lions are engaging in paedophilia?

Don't use "all "human history as an example when we don't even have it documented in its entirety.
 

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Pretty much what Kyle said, they're clearly using code for something. I haven't researched the veracity of claims that this is a known code.
 

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Www.tracytwyman.com has the best info on pizzagate from an occult pov. Tracy is awesome and it is very fun to read her stuff. Her little book "Money Grows..." is highly recommended.
 

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@johnwester130 Rocking mr e on youtube has some interesting videos about this and other things. David Icke has been talking about it for decades.



 
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Any French speakers out there?
This is interesting, he posted a picture wearing this shirt-
James Alefantis ---> J'aime les enfants
 

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I believe. Wikileaks hasn't put out anything false thus far.

Here in the UK paedophile Jimmy Saville was just a conspiracy, until it became fact. The BBC are pushing this Fake News BS. They tried to cover up Saville. One of the first people to talk about him was BBC TV presenter Jill Dando who was murdered.

What the hell is John Podesta doing emailing about eating cheese pizzas and hotdogs?... "Do you think I'll do better playing dominos on cheese than or pasta?" .... "would love to get pizza for an hour".... "what pasta are you doing?" ... what the F does that mean?

Also Russia hacking the election is probably BS to distract us from this pizzagate caper.

Google/ Youtube Joe Biden creepy. This is not appropriate. Disgusting elite, lizard, satanic occultist shadow group, moloch worshipping, shapeshifting, paedophiles, or whatever they are.
 

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So Trump raping a 13 year old, patently false propaganda.

But pizzagate is real?

I need to leave this forum. You're some really dumb people.
 

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Nobody needs to be programmed culturally to see that sex with young kids is psychopathology at work. What purpose is there for having sex with prepubescent children? None other than the depraved individuals Low energy desires being fulfilled,desire for pathological control and ejacultion,the individuals participating in this don't see it as normal,it's the taboo vulgar nature of it that drives them.
Nor are humans freeing up instinct and will desiring to have sex with kids,these are your own warped hubris fuelled projections.
It's ejacultion and orgasm,nothing difficult to achieve,no need for Nietzsche styled wording of unleashing powerness,scratching your balls and urinating after a long wait has as much pleasure within a certain context.
Not all ruling class or financial elite are paedophiles,the majority are not,their are just as many paedophiles going unreported all over the world in lower social classes.

The reason people are disgusted by it and try to stop it is for the good,aspiring to be better,evolving,things we can do,just because nature allows for something doesn't mean it's good for humans or the planet,nuclear weapons as an a example.
On top of that If I had kids I wouldn't want an old man or women sexually interacting with them,if it was natural to humans as you say,those who are culturally programmed why does it incite rage into any parent the thoughts of those things,to reiterate the point,the child's brain is not fully formed,the paedophiles brain is dysfunctional,low energy.

A child's brain is still growing,they don't want to have sex with adults,the paedophiles who claimed a child should have a right to choose were ignoring this obvious point and pointing with their ignorance of this to their own mental dysfunction.

Trying to use lions sexual behaviour or bonobos for that matter as an example for human culture is currently flawed ,the studies on bonobos have many questions around it that doesn't tie in well with human behaviour,the main author of those studies on bonobos sees this himself and warned against using bonobos as examples for human sexual behaviour.
For example,after a fight two bonobo males rub their asses together for some reason,we don't see this in human culture ,however Dana White is rumoured to be bringing this in as rule to UFC soon to boost ratings.
Where is the conclusive evidence that male lions are engaging in paedophilia?

Don't use "all "human history as an example when we don't even have it documented in its entirety.

That kind of people is not sick or mental ill as you may think, it's not that they feel attracted to children in a common sexual way. It's the transgression whats gets them horny; is not about the childs but the power to do things a mortal couldn't even think of. And what is more bizarre than orgys with children as servants?

Again, you are not just "you", but the live you lived in; had you were born in other crazy country or age, and you wouldn't see things the same way you see them when writing here. That's why this type of things are shocking for us, because that's the point.

That happy world and trying to evolve and so on... I'm not sure you really know how humans really are out of the construction of society.
 
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